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Study on Geotubes in Texas

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Dave Rauschkolb

Beach Fanatic
Here is an in depth study of geotubes in Texas. I typed in "Failed Geotubes" in Google and this was the first article to come up. It is technical and in depth but basically you can jump to the end and read the list of conculsions but if you have the time it is an interesting read. Some of the photos show how horrible the beach can look with these "worms". Basically they are expensive, have to be re-covered with sand and holes repaired after every storm. And in some areas, look at the photo on page 24 there is no beach left where they were installed; same affect as seawalls.

http://www.beg.utexas.edu/coastal/2001 final report.pdf
 
Some key points from the article mentioned by David:​
  • The geotubes will fail when exposed to direct wave attack making them useful only for short-term erosion control.​
  • To prevent failure it is critical to keep the geotubes covered with sand, to maintain a beach in front of them, and to repair holes in the fabric as soon as possible.​
  • The shoreline is currently in a retreat phase and the geotubes cannot stop the movement.​
  • Keeping the geotubes repaired, sand covered, and vegetated requires a significant effort.​
  • Beaches in front of the geotubes are narrower than adjacent beaches. These areas create particularly narrow beach segments that are not passable during times of moderately elevated water levels.​
:bang:​
 
Dave Rauschkolb said:
Here is an in depth study of geotubes in Texas. I typed in "Failed Geotubes" in Google and this was the first article to come up. It is technical and in depth but basically you can jump to the end and read the list of conculsions but if you have the time it is an interesting read. Some of the photos show how horrible the beach can look with these "worms". Basically they are expensive, have to be re-covered with sand and holes repaired after every storm. And in some areas, look at the photo on page 24 there is no beach left where they were installed; same affect as seawalls.

http://www.beg.utexas.edu/coastal/2001 final report.pdf
Great article. Thank you
 
Dear Dave R,
Thank you.
It is horrible to see so graphically how the seawalls and geotubes that private BF owners have put up will destroy our beautiful beaches.

What is predictable and also disturbing is that the seawall owners are pressuring the county to use tax dollars to assist them pay for their seawall environmental ?take? and the mitigation plan.

The county is already helping the beach front owners by facilitating the writing of a grant to help pay for the take and mitigation plans and currently plans to charge the seawall owners a fee. I support this facilitation.

But the seawall owners want more. Seawall owners are lobbying for a county wide ?blanket plan?. This indeed would be a nice ?cozy security blanket? for the seawall owners.

The ?blanket plan? that the seawall owners are seeking is ?code? for placing costs for the seawall take and mitigation plan on the taxpayers .


Do we really want the county subsidizing or encouraging seawalls which are notorious for destroying beaches?

This is to be discussed at the next BCC meeting. We should all call the county commissioners to tell them what we think. You can bet many seawall owners are.
 
Does anyone know if there are requirements by the county or state to maintain sand and vegetation covering seawalls or geotubes? I have already seen edges exposed as well as bolts. What about after a storm? Is there an obligation by the property owner to clean debris, re-cover exposed portions with sand, etc. ?

What about if the property changes hands and the new property owner isn't even aware there is a buried structure? Would this need to be disclosed by the previous owner? Would possible liability be with the previous owner or the current owner?
 
kurt said:
Does anyone know if there are requirements by the county or state to maintain sand and vegetation covering seawalls or geotubes? I have already seen edges exposed as well as bolts. What about after a storm? Is there an obligation by the property owner to clean debris, re-cover exposed portions with sand, etc. ?

What about if the property changes hands and the new property owner isn't even aware there is a buried structure? Would this need to be disclosed by the previous owner? Would possible liability be with the previous owner or the current owner?
Possibly both. I am not an attorney! If the current homeowner did no DD as part of a feasibility study, he may be liable too, even if the previous owner did not disclose. That is the case with environmental issues often times. Also included in the liability could be the engineer who designed the wall, the construction company who erected the wall, and the manufactorer of a manufactored wall.

As I mentioned last year, once a tube is exposed after a few hours of the sand washing away, the debris from the walkovers, which will be floating around, will very likely be able to rip the tubes, causing extreme damage to the tubes and thereby causing them to fail when the storm actually arrives.

Again, I'm just using a little common sense. No geotube expert here.
 
I suspect the county will be saddled with the tab to maintain and repair seawalls and geotubes.

The argument from the GF owners will be: (1) You (the county)"allowed" them to be built in the first place (same argument for allowing seawall protection of the GF homes that were "allowed" to be built); and (2) The beach is the cash cow of the community, without it this resort is nothing.

The dye has been cast, the seawalls and geotubes are here...this is now SoWal's future. The county needs to start assessing higher taxes (homeowners & bed) in preparation for this inevitable expense.
 
As a Civil Engineer I have done numerous erosion projects albeit none on the beach, but all with similarities to the one mentioned in the study. There are a few different ways to design a solution and even more ways to interpret the intent of those solutions once they are in place. Most people want hard solutions, i.e. concrete and steel, when their property is threatened by erosion, be it on the bank of a stream, or abutting the beach. They want to see something physically protecting their investment. Structures such as seawalls or lined channels are always very strongly stated short term solutions. They almost always cause more problems then they solve; just look at New Orleans. Nature has a way of reclaiming its property. Erosion occurs for basically two reasons, one is just the natural process of time as you can see in the grand canyon and the other is caused human intrusion. Nature tends to take millions of years while human caused erosion can take a very short time. Concrete and steel can be thought of as just adding more human intrusion in the mix and thus causing more long term problems. Letting nature take its course will inevitably remove the offending human intrusion of houses on dunes or paving over fields, and the end results are usually not acceptable to the property owners. Correct usage of soft structures such as geotube, geofabrics etc. is an attempt to help nature mend with the results that are desired by the community. They are generally put in as temporary measures with a long term goal of helping naturally occurring plants reestablish and secure the eroding soils. The plants and accompanying root structure armor the dunes, stream banks etc. These type projects are long term solutions, but also require a longer time for the plants to reestablish to the point of fully stabilizing the repair. There are also plenty of people out there that will put in a soft structure as if it were a piece of concrete, that is, without the long term goal of restoration in mind?only the short term protection in mind. If you go back through the report and look at the photographs you will notice that the geotubes in the study did help to prevent a lot of undercutting of the dunes, and probably have helped to keep the area in a better position for a quicker recovery and to continue to build back the dunes.

I am not about to say that geotubes are the only way to accomplish beach restoration. Grayton had good results with the sand fence and sea oats program. Ultimately that would provide a more or less all natural solution, but it takes a long time. Not building houses on the beach or dunes would be a good step too, but probably not one that property owners, nor vacationers, would like. Generally speaking if the funds can be devoted to developing a good solution rather than funding legal fights everyone wins. Regional solutions that allow a comprehensive approach are often better than a confederacy of projects where one undermines the other.
 
SHELLY said:
The dye has been cast, the seawalls and geotubes are here...this is now SoWal's future. The county needs to start assessing higher taxes (homeowners & bed) in preparation for this inevitable expense.
I guess this is a stupid and na?ve question, but why couldn't the county (or some official agency or administrative unit) just order the seawalls torn down and the geotubes removed?
 
Beach Runner said:
I guess this is a stupid and na?ve question, but why couldn't the county (or some official agency or administrative unit) just order the seawalls torn down and the geotubes removed?


I equally out of my league here, but I'd venture to say that the whole seawall/geotube thing will not die quietly. Not when there's so much $$ involved. Money does strange things to people. And then there's always that rare commodity that Smiling JOe mentioned: common sense. Seems to be a dearth of that, too. :bang:
 
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