Stupak is stupid

[Arkiehawg]

This particular bil is the health care bill and the democrats. Republicans have been guilty in the past. Does this excuse the democrats this time?

I have taken off my rose colored glasses concerning my party, I suggest you do the same with yours.;-)

I find it interesting that you think I'm a Democrat

What I have been challenging you repubs on is all of your bellyaching about the evil democrats who do behind the scene deals, are worse than the devil etc.....but yet seem to act as if YOUR side are angels. They are just as bad if not worse.

When is the last time "your" leadership condemned on national television, press etc. all of the hatred that has been spewed by the Lush Bimbaugh's of the world or the protesters who are calling the dems reps (who happen to be THEIR colleagues) Ngger, Fggt, etc? Instead, they stand up on balconies acting as cheerleaders encouraging these acts.

When was the last time that you contacted YOUR congressmen and INSIST that they go public and condemn such acts of hatred? Everyone says that it is just a small group, but if the repubs don't stop that small group you will find some wacko who will do another OK bombing or worse.

Do you really think that the repubs Laurel and Hardy team they had on the agenda for President the last time around would have been any better?

If you do, you still have those rose colored glasses on....;-)

 

[GoodWitch58]

As far as profits all companies make a profit at the expense of others.

If you read my post again, you will see that I said at the expense of people's lives. Many ( all, if they are to stay in business) companies make a profit and support their customers and their communities in many ways. For the most part, the for profit hospitals do well, but they do not do well at the expense of people's lives.

Tell me one other industry besides the insurance industry that has the power to absolutely decide if a person gets care or not; gets a specific medication or not; or who, after years and years of the customer paying for something (insurance) turn around and deny the claim, or cancel a policy, just when a customer needs it most. The system without reform allows a company of strangers to invade the most private parts of our lives and make decisions that can often end those lives. And, no matter how one spins this information, the fact remains that in a civil society, that is not right.

I buy a car and the dealership makes a profit; I pay for a house and the seller makes a profit; I buy food and the grocery store makes a profit--but none of these does it at the expense of my (or my children's) life or health.

There may be many ways to change and improve the sytem...that may be up for discussion. What is not up for discussion IMO is that it needs to be changed to reflect something more than profit making. I am glad that the president and the Democrats in Congress made this effort. At least they are doing something besides whining and obstructing any efforts at improvement.