Thank You Mr. President

[Lake View Too]

I must be simple minded...cause I DO THINK, and KNOW that this one little man (your words not mind) has an agenda, he came into office with it, has surrounded himself with the same type little men and right now has control over both houses filled with the same type little men and women and their goal is to change America and make it into their image...and the hell with anyone that thinks differently. After reading your many posts the other day, which were really harsh for you, as usually you are pretty rational Geo, I am going to place you in that same little group of "little men."

From my count it takes over 60 senators and about 260 something representatives to pass a spending bill. That's a whole lot of little men (and women) to make the mess we have. And stop calling people little, it makes you look small.

 

[Lynnie]

Hi Edgy,

I attempted to objectively dissect our original posters thesis. Irrespective of what she thinks of Mr. Obama's legislation I find it doubtful that his body of work is to blame for her husband's business decision to layoff 50 people. In other words, I called bull ****. Is that harsh? Well I guess rational thought and truth sometimes isn't cordial or pretty.

If you believe I'm wrong then apply your wisdom and show me where. Calling me a little man might be funny and make you feel good but it doesn't disprove my points.

I agree, it didn't happen that quickly. It's most certainly the catalyst, however. People reach a threshold and take action then.

 

[Bob]

Have a blessed day!!

god bless the hourly slaves

 

[Geo]

If the original poster's family business was booming would it have been decided that 50 people would be laid off? And would Obama legislation which hasn't gone into effect yet be cited as the reason business was booming?

 

[AndrewG]

Yep God forbid if Obama was making things worse. Denial is saying he can't affect us.

Sounds like an excuse for the continued downward spiral.

 

[Geo]

That's just bs. The key players in this discussion who disagree with the original poster are fine admitting Obama's shortcomings (along with those of any other dem or republican). There are numerous examples of our expressed criticism/dissatisfaction of Obama in this forum. And there are numerous examples of us challenging each other's logic and reasoning.

If I am wrong on anything I've typed show me where and why. But don't hide behind a vague accusation that I am wrong because I wouldn't admit it if Obama really was at fault.

Original poster said herself that the lawyers and accountants advised to do the layoffs. Belaboring the point- I presume this advice was strictly based on the bottom line rather than because of Obama legislation that hasn't kicked in yet.

We blame Bush for things he did and we provide support for the rational. Blame Obama for what you wish but you will be much more credible if you stick around and articulate your reasons.

 

[Edgy Grammy]

Hi Edgy,

You are interpreting connotations from the terms I used "one little man" and "simple minded" that weren't originally intended. And your applying new ones of your own.

My central point is that the economy is very complex and there are factors beyond the legislative actions or ideas of any one sitting president that affect its health. The economy is bigger than one individual so we shouldn't assign
too much blame or
too much credit to any one individual for what the economy looks like. There's a reason we have so many economists with so many different (often opposing) views on how
to steer our economy. Because it is so not simple.

I attempted to objectively dissect our original posters thesis. Irrespective of what she thinks of Mr. Obama's legislation I find it doubtful that his body of work is to blame for her husband's business decision to layoff 50 people. In other words, I called bull ****. Is that harsh? Well I guess rational thought and truth sometimes isn't cordial or pretty.

If you believe I'm wrong then apply your wisdom and show me where. Calling me a little man might be funny and make you feel good but it doesn't disprove my points.

If I read your post wrong then I am at fault. BUT, I believe one of the key points of Obama's campaign was that HE was going to fix it, he had a plan, he was going to bring great minds together to solve this "Bush Made" crisis. He used comments made by McCain on the economy against him, Obama had a plan, he was going to turn it around. He gets elected. Dems control both houses. It is a full deck..no red cards in power they are out numbered. His plan that he promised had smooth sailing...and then what happens once in office with his plan, things take a turn for the worse, stimulus $$ padded with Congress extras....don't work, helping folks buy cars doesn't work, helping out banks doesn't work...they still aren't making many loans, ...so instead of staying focused on the Economy...Obama starts foscusing on Health Care... that has nothing to do with jobs and stablizing our finances. Here we are now almost two years later...Economy still sucks, folks still not working, our debts are mounting...and what is the solution, where is that wonderful plan ...as a retiree who put away $$ in funds to live on, I watched my savings take a dive with everyone else, I watched the value of my home drop, I watched my real estate taxes go up. My monthly income went down and down. No dividends were coming in. There are many that are not happy. Personally I don't think Obama had a plan, has a plan, even wants to have a plan to save our economy...he is so busy trying to get his "overhaul changes" done before he loses his Congress yes men. I wasn't calling you a little man...will have to go re read my original message...I was using your words Geo in your post. I did think you were harsh in answering the original poster, will not back down from that...and that is very unusual for you...as you always are very tackful and calm in responding to us non Obama believers.

 

[Edgy Grammy]

I must be simple minded...cause I DO THINK, and KNOW that this one little man (your words not mind) has an agenda, he came into office with it, has surrounded himself with the same type little men and right now has control over both houses filled with the same type little men and women and their goal is to change America and make it into their image...and the hell with anyone that thinks differently. After reading your many posts the other day, which were really harsh for you, as usually you are pretty rational Geo, I am going to place you in that same little group of "little men."

Geo was almost right...I didn't call him a little man.. but I did put him in a group of little men, as I was disappointed in the way he was on the defensive and rather harsh which is not the way he usually responds to other posters. It must have been one of those days where he got up on the wrong side of the bed. Geo is not a little man!

 

[sarawind]

Obama's domestic policy priority is the redistribution of wealth. The stimulus has failed and the American people understand the very obvious point that it cannot cover 30 million additional people while improving the care of the insured and save taxpayers money, all at the same time. A person in business has to readjust to all of Obama's dictates to remain in business.

Edgy Grammy's post was very clear in describing the ripple effect on the economy that the Obama regime has pushed down our throats.

 

[AndrewG]

That's just bs. The key players in this discussion who disagree with the original poster are fine admitting Obama's shortcomings (along with those of any other dem or republican). There are numerous examples of our expressed criticism/dissatisfaction of Obama in this forum. And there are numerous examples of us challenging each other's logic and reasoning.

If I am wrong on anything I've typed show me where and why. But don't hide behind a vague accusation that I am wrong because I wouldn't admit it if Obama really was at fault.

Original poster said herself that the lawyers and accountants advised to do the layoffs. Belaboring the point- I presume this advice was strictly based on the bottom line rather than because of Obama legislation that hasn't kicked in yet.

We blame Bush for things he did and we provide support for the rational. Blame Obama for what you wish but you will be much more credible if you stick around and articulate your reasons.

Key players? As if some posters opinions carry greater weight than others. This mentality is exactly why the original poster has decided to walk away from this discussion.

Credible? This isn't about me. I'm not looking to join the "key player" club. It's about the direction our Country is headed and how millions of Americans are losing jobs.