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The real reason Obamacare has Failed us all?

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drivingtheview

drivingtheview

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I beleive we can all agree reform is needed for Healthcare. Though I urge everyone to keep in mind-we are talking about reforming the greatest health care system in the World. Mr. hope and change made a lot of "promises" to we the people during his presidential campaign. It is blatantly obvious after watching these videos/reading the article that Obama's words were the definition of deceitful insincerity. So I wanted to ask you - what is the true reason Obamacare has failed? Obama and his team crafted this proposed plan with zero knowledge/input from the public (he promised c-span TV camera coverage of the drafting process of his proposed Healthcare Bill as well as publishing the initial draft on the internet ;-)), pushed the bill over to the committees, and demanded both FILIBUSTER-PROOF Houses of Congress shove it down we the people's throats in 3 weeks time!!!! I wonder why he did that :idontno:?!? We have all argued the under the table devilish details of the plan. But I think this completely misses the point of why his reform has failed us all. When I hear the "pundits" argue about proposed healthcare reform-very few mention Obama's slight of hand obvious lies as a reason for the massive public backlash. For me, the following links show why I have written this President completely off. I now unfortunately have zero faith in anything he says. Please review the following quick links before commenting :wave:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU"]YouTube - Barack Obama "Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk"[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A_-Qkb22zA"]YouTube - Obama's Promise for Open Healthcare Reform[/ame]

After lawsuit, Obama releases info on health talks - White House- msnbc.com
 
drivingtheview said:
I beleive we can all agree reform is needed for Healthcare. Though I urge everyone to keep in mind-we are talking about reforming the greatest health care system in the World. I wanted to ask you - what is the true reason Obamacare has failed? :idontno:?!? For me, the following links show why I have written this President completely off. I "now" unfortunately have zero faith in anything he says. Please review the following quick links before commenting :wave:

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Thanks Bob..."Greatest Health care sytem in the world"--yea right. Try # 37 in the World for starters.

And don't be so smug and sanctimonious as to make me think that you have "just" written this President off as you portend-- All of your sowal posts from Aug 7 thru October 18th, along with your strong support for the wacko from Alaska, has just said quite a bit, and it has put your entire argument in a new slanted perspective, as far as I am concerned.:wave:

PS: Your crying Charlie Brown avatar also reveals a certain amount of aleination, political or otherwise.
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drivingtheview said:
I beleive we can all agree reform is needed for Healthcare. Though I urge everyone to keep in mind-we are talking about reforming the greatest health care system in the World. I wanted to ask you - what is the true reason Obamacare has failed? :idontno:?!? For me, the following links show why I have written this President completely off. I "now" unfortunately have zero faith in anything he says. Please review the following quick links before commenting :wave:

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Thanks Bob..."Greatest Health care sytem in the world"--yea right. Try # 37 in the World for starters.

And don't be so smug and sanctimonious as to make me think that you have "just" written this President off as you portend-- All of your sowal posts from Aug 7 thru October 18th, along with your strong support for the wacko from Alaska, has just said quite a bit, and it has put your entire argument in a new slanted perspective, as far as I am concerned.:wave:

PS: Your crying Charlie Brown avatar also reveals a certain amount of aleination, political or otherwise.
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:lolabove: :floor: And I had always thought my avatar was inspired by my son's love of "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown????" He loves the picture as well as the song. Instead I am alienated :cry: I shall banish this DVD from the library

Fortunately for you, I am the only one here saddled with bitter bias :biggrin: Forgive me if I do not cite your prior posting history in retort as I have a life and one other point of rational interest.... I do not know you hnooe :clap: Therefore, I shall choose to avoid the public path of cowardice message board attacks. You are obviously highly skilled at this tactic so please continue to educate us all.

Much love for your personal attacks and I have great admiration of your on point response to my question. Quite a telling response based on the facts I offered. You should bolt for the 36 other countries who have better healthcare than ours. Please wave to the countless foreigners waiting in line to access to our system. I'll take healthcare in the USA any day of the week. These respected UN inspired rankings you cite are obviously rock solid fact http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/reprint/20/3/10.pdf As I previously clearly stated, we need healthcare reform. If there is a Democratic filibuster proof House and Senate, why don't we have a new Healthcare reform Bill ready for Obama to sign-just as he demanded? There has to be a reason with more depth than my poor alienated avatar???

Can we please stick to the facts offered. Intelligent discussion/rebuttal is encouraged :wave:
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drivingtheview said:
I beleive we can all agree reform is needed for Healthcare. Though I urge everyone to keep in mind-we are talking about reforming the greatest health care system in the World.

Add: "for those who can afford it".
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Ditto hnooe. ;-)
 
beachFool said:
You forgot to mention Obama is not a natural-born citizen, too.
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He's not???????????????????:shock: I demand to see a birth certificate!!!!!!:biggrin:
Oh, not that one. I want you to send out the original and mail it around the country so we can all touch it.................:cool:
 
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