This does not sound like good police work

[The Watcher]

risk of rumor

At the risk of being accused of passing a rumor, I heard that the DOT officer involved is a big campaign supporter of the police chief. Have you heard anything like that? If this is true, you may be correct about the smell.

I guess we'll wait for the FHP Report (maybe D. Griffin can get it...he just might hold on to it until after Tuesday ;-), althought if there is anything to this, it needs to be adjudicated now).

I do see a DOT officer who donated a large sum of money to that campaign. I have been "told" he is one who is/was on the list of management coming on board should the candidate win on Tuesday. Now that is just rumor.

Has any other agency looked into this "rumor". If a State of Florida, Department Vehicle was responsible for the situation that lead to an unmarked City Vehicle crashing with injury, that might not look too good. I hope thats not the case. I guess one could pull radio traffic tapes for the cars, review the sworn statements given by all involved, review any witness statemens that may have seen the whole thing start, make public record requests through the DOT, etc., etc., etc.,

Further, if there was/is any INTENT that this incident was orchastrated and not just a coincidence, that may pose a much larger problem for those involved. Reading back through the posts, it all would seem to make much more sense with this puzzle piece in place... For the record, I still did not like the officers being used as pawns in the original post, what might be worse is that they might have been pawns on a whole other level...

w

 

[idlewind]

I guess we'll wait for the FHP Report (maybe D. Griffin can get it...he just might hold on to it until after Tuesday ;-), althought if there is anything to this, it needs to be adjudicated now).

I do see a DOT officer who donated a large sum of money to that campaign. I have been "told" he is one who is/was on the list of management coming on board should the candidate win on Tuesday. Now that is just rumor.

Has any other agency looked into this "rumor". If a State of Florida, Department Vehicle was responsible for the situation that lead to an unmarked City Vehicle crashing with injury, that might not look too good. I hope thats not the case. I guess one could pull radio traffic tapes for the cars, review the sworn statements given by all involved, review any witness statemens that may have seen the whole thing start, make public record requests through the DOT, etc., etc., etc.,

Further, if there was/is any INTENT that this incident was orchastrated and not just a coincidence, that may pose a much larger problem for those involved. Reading back through the posts, it all would seem to make much more sense with this puzzle piece in place... For the record, I still did not like the officers being used as pawns in the original post, what might be worse is that they might have been pawns on a whole other level...

w

Didn't Ralph and his brother and several of Ralph's top management get in trouble with the FBI for trying to manipulate a drug bust on the interstate right after Ralph took office? Are you thinking this could be the same thing?

 

[The Watcher]

Smoke = fire (most of the time)

Didn't Ralph and his brother and several of Ralph's top management get in trouble with the FBI for trying to manipulate a drug bust on the interstate right after Ralph took office? Are you thinking this could be the same thing?

There are so many tales of wrong doing by local law enforcement, it is hard to keep them all straight. But, to answer your question, this set of circumstances would bear looking into at this point.

As for the incident you reference, as I recall, I believe one of the WCSO Narcotics Officers was actually arrested and prosecuted (Federally) on the case. Further, it was rumored that a tail light of the suspect vehicle became damaged, after the stop. This would create reason to stop said vehicle. The whole thing was swept up quick quickly but many of those with direct knowledge and even involvement, still actively work in the area, in law enforcement. (I'm certain you know that). Refreshing isn't it?;-)

However, based on the numerous and multiple legal violations this current administration has been involved/suspect in, nothing surprises me anymore.
:shock:

w

 

[The Watcher]

What happened

DeFuniak police car crashes during pursuit





July 10, 2008 - 10:34PM
Andrew Gant
Daily News
DeFUNIAK SPRINGS - A pickup truck slammed into an unmarked police car Thursday as officers tried to help catch a suspect in an undercover state case.

DeFuniak Springs Police Investigator Brian Schultz was driving with passengers Sgt. Joseph Ward and police intern Laura Gainey when he heard a request to help catch the suspect, according to police.

Schultz turned onto U.S. Highway 331 at the intersection of the Interstate 10 eastbound on-ramp, police said. But he didn't see a northbound blue Dodge pickup, driven by Elliot W. Harrah of Fort Walton Beach.

Harrah hit the cruiser hard enough to pin Ward and Gainey inside. They were later released with the Jaws of Life.

Gainey was taken to HealthMark Regional Medical Center with a fractured shoulder and transferred to Pensacola for more treatment.

Everyone else was treated at HealthMark for cuts and bruises and released.

The suspect police were chasing got away, they said.

The Florida Highway Patrol is investigating the crash.



I do not think that allowing unmarked police cars with a civilian (intern) as a passenger is too thoughtful. I wonder if this was allowed in policy, what does this say about the administration of the police department. In any case, sounds like an expensive bill for the citizens of DFS.:angry:
I am glad that everyone is OK and that the young lady only has a broken shoulder.

Has there been any additional information released about this crash? Things got awfully quite fast... I hate it for the two officers, but there was a great deal of discussion on this and a possible "connection".

 

[Seeker1]

last known info, maybe others saw it too

The last bit of information I read in the paper on the crash was an interview with the police chief on the officers returning to work.
He was glad to see the officers returning to work after a short recuperation time. I'm also very glad to see everyone recover from the crash and hope they continue to feel better each and every day.
It was very obvious the chief didnt show any concern or offer any well wishes to the driver of the other vehicle.
Yes, the article was about the officers. But it was also incumbent upon the cheif to extend his well wishes to all others involved as well. He didnt.
For me, that says enough.

 

[Seeker1]

on another note

I still cant find anything on the "vehicle of no description" being stopped "somewhere" in Texas driven by a suspect nodody has ever described.
Im beginning to wonder if this phantom vehicle ever existed or was it fabricated in order to excuse the severity of the crash?

 

[The Watcher]

Dot

I still cant find anything on the "vehicle of no description" being stopped "somewhere" in Texas driven by a suspect nodody has ever described.
Im beginning to wonder if this phantom vehicle ever existed or was it fabricated in order to excuse the severity of the crash?

I'm begining to wonder when the State will look into the possibility that one of its vehicles was involved in this and that numerous locals (topix.com) are saying it was the reason for the incident. It seems to me that DOT is not too concerned about this.

This whole thing stinks, but based on lack of fact it is mere speculation. Has anyone depo'd the officers involved? I guess that would be up to the City and we know who runs that...

Glad no one seriously injured, Sad to see officers used as pawns in a nasty chess game. (Check, Knight takes Queen...);-)

 

[The Watcher]

Funny again

The last bit of information I read in the paper on the crash was an interview with the police chief on the officers returning to work.
He was glad to see the officers returning to work after a short recuperation time. I'm also very glad to see everyone recover from the crash and hope they continue to feel better each and every day.
It was very obvious the chief didnt show any concern or offer any well wishes to the driver of the other vehicle.
Yes, the article was about the officers. But it was also incumbent upon the cheif to extend his well wishes to all others involved as well. He didnt.
For me, that says enough.

Funny again, isn't it, how no one responds to a valid point/question when it does not benefit them... Very odd indeed.:roll:

 

[Seeker1]

Very observant

Funny again, isn't it, how no one responds to a valid point/question when it does not benefit them... Very odd indeed.:roll:

Usually, after a candidate wins a primary they'll stand on their heads to talk to the media and keep the momentum going.

After seeing the article in the daily news that Mike never responded to several attempts to contact him the night of the primary, I feel we havent seen anything yet.

The article stated he did not return repeated calls after the final numbers were announced. Makes ya wonder.

 

[The Watcher]

Move on

Usually, after a candidate wins a primary they'll stand on their heads to talk to the media and keep the momentum going.

After seeing the article in the daily news that Mike never responded to several attempts to contact him the night of the primary, I feel we havent seen anything yet.

The article stated he did not return repeated calls after the final numbers were announced. Makes ya wonder.

All I can say is this;

Mike Adkinson won the primary. Now, it is time to move towards the general and support the candidate people feel best suited to represent the County. Ralph is gone and all we can do is start to heal from some wounds.

I think that if Mike fills his staff with qualified, diverse individuals; those that represent both North and South Ends of our County, he can move this department into the future and be very successful. He also needs to stick to his campaign platform and hold true to his plans. Unfortunately, there are several members of the current administration which (my opinion) should be removed. They do not represent the County, they represent Ralph and those days are gone.

We must move on and help to build the best County we can.

w