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This is a tuff one ! Reported 3 hours ago:
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Leader of the Banned
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I did find out that the Japanese do not have a presumption of innocence in their legal system. Justice is swift and sure, although maybe all too often it's not just. The crime rate is very low though, and they get all the lurid sexually violent entertainment anyone could possibly want. In other words they are happy campers.
steel1man
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Remember when you where young and you screwed up and had to wait for your dad to come home and issue your punishment? Well most of us probably didn't do that screw up again ( just found another way to get in trouble) point is, if theres a punishment involved that scares you,you'll probably think twice about being a repeat offender.
Leader of the Banned
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If we didn't have so many tight-assed conservatives in this country I would fully embrace a harsher justice system. In other words, if we lived in an ultra-permissive society like Japan's, in all 50 states, I'd be willing to consider major changes to our justice system. As long as the far right, and ass-clowns like Justice Scalia exist, that's never going to happen.
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Matt J
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Am I the only one that see's the irony in a pretty white message board with white people discussing what is going on in a primarily black community. We even have an "on the ground" reporter, who is white, reporting live from the scene of St. Louis. Not actually in the town or even area of the issue, just nearby and most likely reporting what they've heard from friends of friends of friends.
steel1man
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most of the reporters (NBC ) for sure are African American.....plus just read that coroner said ALL shots where from the FRONT( family flew in coroner from NYC) arm wounds indicate he could not have had his hands raise when shot. His friend who claims to have witness shooting hiding behind a car says " he was shoot in the back"...Hmmmm..so guess what?? Obama administration now is calling for a second autopsy. And of course in your Local eyes this is not as bad as when American American's have reason to reclaim what's theirs via rioting...
Did you look at the autopsy sketch? It show a body outline from the front with palms forward, no one stands in that position unless they are saying " who, me?" Three of the bullet entry points are on the inside of the right arm and thumb which would be consistent with wounds suffered when the arms are raised.
steel1man
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so now your a coroner....?
No, I'm not a frikin coroner are you? Witnesses claim MB was running when while being shot at. He then turned and raised his hands. I'm just guessing they just assumed a bullet hit him from behind. An eye witness claims he had his hands in the air, but I guess since she is also black you would claim she isn't reliable.
steel1man
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A preliminary private autopsy has provided valuable insight into the shooting death of Michael Brown. Results have confirmed some witnesses’ allegations, while directly "contradicting " some accounts by those present.
The New York Times reports that the autopsy found that Brown was struck 6 times: four shots in the right arm, and two in the head.
One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy.
It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.
The meaning of that last bullet could have very different implications, Dr. Baden said.
“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he told the New York Times. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”
The autopsy was performed for free by Dr. Baden, the host of the HBO show “Autopsy.” He normally charges a $10,000 fee.
Perhaps the most Telling piece of information was that Brown was struck in the front of his body, which pokes holes in the account given by Dorian Johnson, the 22-year-old man who was with Brown at the time of the shooting.
In addition, it does NOT appear that Brown had his hands up when he was shot.
The Obama administration has ordered a second autopsy be conducted under federal supervision. NYT continued:
Mr. Johnson said that he hid behind a parked car and that Mr. Brown was struck by a bullet in his BACK as he ran away, an account that Dr. Baden’s autopsy appears to contradict.
Dr. Baden reportedly did not have access to the clothes Brown was wearing at the time of the shooting, preventing him from discovering whether Brown was shot at close range or not. However, Dr. Baden did not detect any such residue on Brown’s body. The doctor also said that police should examine the car Officer Darren Wilson was driving to look for residue.
Despite the large number of bullets, Dr. Baden said that
MORE information is necessary before assigning blame.
“In my capacity as the forensic examiner for the New York State Police, I would say, ‘You’re not supposed to shoot so many times,’ ” said Dr. Baden, who retired from the state police in 2011. “Right now there is too little information to forensically reconstruct the shooting.”
In the days and weeks ahead, we are likely to receive more information, from the Ferguson Police Department and Officer Darren Wilson himself.
The media should refrain from speculation about the tragic shooting and reserve judgment until all the facts are known in this case.