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beachFool

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This column ran 2/27/10 and can be found at www.waltonsun.com

America needs to make some hard choices very soon.


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My wife and I begin most mornings with a 2-mile walk.

There is something serene about seeing the sun rise over Grayton State Park. Often I say a silent prayer to Gov. Lawton Chiles, who had the foresight to protect that beautiful piece of God?s green earth.

Recently, by mutual agreement, we delayed our excursion. Grover (Nitwit) Norquist was being interviewed on MSNBC?s ?Morning Joe,? hosted by our former congressman Joe Scarborough. Norquist?s solution to our financial problem is cutting taxes and eliminating wasteful spending. Conservative stalwart Pat Buchanan immediately chastised Norquist, insisting that he spell out what programs Norquist would cut: ?How are you going to cut 10 percent GDP out of the federal budget? without paring Social Security benefits, Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements, military spending and interest on our debt?

Norquist refused to answer the question because it cannot be done.

His intransigence fuels our problem; perhaps Americans can?t handle the truth. Touting tax cuts as a solution is like trying to lose weight without changing your lifestyle.

For starters, we are fighting two wars; wars, by definition, are expensive. Wasteful spending is in the eye of the beholder. The sowal. com message board chided FHA loan programs in Elkhart, Ind., as an example of wasteful spending. But to the good citizens of Elkhart, replacing the Clyde Wells Bridge probably looks like pork. The magnitude of wasteful federal spending is in direct proportion to the distance it is from your front door. No, Mr. Norquist, there are no easy answers to our financial problems.

Recently I bought ?Choosing the Nation?s Fiscal Future,? (free download at www.nap  . edu) published by National Academies Press with a grant from the MacArthur Foundation. Bipartisanship is not dead; collaborators on this report included members of the American Enterprise Institute and The Urban League. These folks realize our problem is neither conservative nor liberal, but American. This report defines four ways to slow the spiraling increase of the federal debt relative to the economy by fiscal 2012 ? none of which Mr. Norquist will find palatable because they all involve tax increases of some degree or dramatic spending reductions.

Any politician who tells you that we can get out of our dilemma without some degree of pain is deluding you.

The committee proposes four ways to solve our budget woes.

1. Low spending and revenue: Tax revenue would stay essentially the same, but it would require ?sharp reduction in growth rates for health and retirement programs.?

2. High spending and revenue: Tax revenue increases to 33 percent of GDP (currently 18-19 percent). Social Security benefits would be secure (not Medicare); other current federal spending could be higher.

3. Intermediate: Revenues increase to 25 percent. Growth rates for Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security would be lower, but other public infrastructure investments could continue.

4. Intermediate B: Revenue could slightly increase over 25 percent, but growth rates for entitlement programs would be higher, with a corresponding decrease over federal spending. Given the easily projected numbers, the federal debt will be 150 percent of GDP by 2040. Of course, the economy would melt before then.

To paraphrase Robert Plant in ?Stairway to Heaven,? there are four paths we can go by. In the long run, there?s still time to change the road we are on.
 
When social security was first created, full benefits kicked in at the ripe old age of 65. Today that age limit is 67. Medicare applies similar age restrictions. Yet between 1930 and today, life expectancy has increased nearly 20 years, from 59 to 78.

At some point we are going to have to accept major changes in a system that was once an end of life safety net that has now become a support system that encompasses nearly 1/4 of our life expectancy. Add to this the fact that politicians have spent 100% of the excess reserves meant for smoothing over population changes, resulting in a brewing fiscal calamity of epic proportions. We will have to deal with this at some point in the near future. The current system is unsustainable.
 
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When social security was first created, full benefits kicked in at the ripe old age of 65. Today that age limit is 67. Medicare applies similar age restrictions. Yet between 1930 and today, life expectancy has increased nearly 20 years, from 59 to 78.

At some point we are going to have to accept major changes in a system that was once an end of life safety net that has now become a support system that encompasses nearly 1/4 of our life expectancy. Add to this the fact that politicians have spent 100% of the excess reserves meant for smoothing over population changes, resulting in a brewing fiscal calamity of epic proportions. We will have to deal with this at some point in the near future. The current system is unsustainable.

I've often wondered if people of a certain age and accumulated wealth would be willing (and the government would let them) to drop out of social security and forego what ever benefits they have accumulated for the opportunity to start investing that money themselves in private accounts.
 
I've often wondered if people of a certain age and accumulated wealth would be willing (and the government would let them) to drop out of social security and forego what ever benefits they have accumulated for the opportunity to start investing that money themselves in private accounts.

My idea was that they could choose to forgo the benefits and get to deduct that amount on their taxes.

That way the money stays in the fund, but they still get to benefit somehow.

AND the politicos can't use SS or Medicare for anything - it STAYS in those accounts.
 
My idea was that they could choose to forgo the benefits and get to deduct that amount on their taxes.

That way the money stays in the fund, but they still get to benefit somehow.

AND the politicos can't use SS or Medicare for anything - it STAYS in those accounts.

Under your plan would they still have to keep paying into the system or could they move forward with private accounts after they gave up their accumulated benefits?

My husband and I are 51 years old and have done well. I would be willing to walk away from the money that we've already put in (even without a tax deduction). I can't see how they will reform social security without something like this happening.
 
They still have to pay in - for a variety of reasons.

Opting out sounds good - until people poorly invest or the market tanks or their pension falls through or someone dies or there is a health issue or something else happens and they then need that income. I want it to still be a fallback option for them if it is needed.

I think a lot of people would be willing to give up their benefits if they had the means to do so and if so, I want them get rewarded somehow.

Social Security is only supposed to be a portion of your overall planned retirement income anyway. I think it is 25%? :idontno: I pay SS though I don't realistically think I will get much out of it as a healthy working person of my age - but fate often has other plans.
 
Social Security was never meant to be the only retirement income a family has. Unfortunately, for many that seems to be the case. It must be reformed and is much more in need of that reform than the health care system, IMO. It almost seems that if you planned with forethought, saved for retirement and didn't put all your eggs in one basket, you are now looked upon by many as someone who has cheated the system. I hope I am mistaken in thinking this and if someone can point out where I am in error I would appreciate it. It does seem to me, to reiterate, that if you worked hard, saved your money and are entitled to things you planned for and receive, in today's world you don't care about the other guy. In most instances nothing could be further from the truth.
 
I don't hear that planning ahead or well is cheating the system, but I frequently hear that "too conservative, too old fashioned, not making your money work for you like you should, you are thinking too far ahead, being pessimistic, not taking advantage of the system, you'll never get rich that way" etc.

Please note that this is NOT what I hear from anyone w/ a clue about financial planning - or even the SS administration. :roll:
 
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