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contrary, JohnR? I think not. this dude has a massive brain and is progressive in many ways. apparently, he was the man behind many of John Paul II's research and writings.. though JP did have his own brilliance.

"As the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI, had recently stated, the international community needs to respect and encourage a ?Green Culture,? characterized by ethical values. The Book of Genesis tells us of a beginning in which God placed man as guardian over the earth to make it fruitful. When man forgets that he is a faithful servant of this earth, it becomes a desert that threatens the survival of all creation?"

these papal dudes have been saying such for decades.
 
Tootsie, you seriously don't think there are global climate change doomsday prophets out there?

of course they are out there - but not sure why this particular wording was used. Pope Ben never said we should not take global warming seriously. he never even talked about doomsday prophets. this article is radically different from what he actually said.

don't know what The Daily Mail was trying to spin, but these were his actual words:

Humanity today is rightly concerned about the ecological balance of tomorrow. It is important for assessments in this regard to be carried out prudently, in dialogue with experts and people of wisdom, uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions, and above all with the aim of reaching agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances.

If the protection of the environment involves costs, they should be justly distributed, taking due account of the different levels of development of various countries and the need for solidarity with future generations.

Prudence does not mean failing to accept responsibilities and postponing decisions; it means being committed to making joint decisions after pondering responsibly the road to be taken.
 
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of course they are out there - but not sure why this particular wording was used. Pope Ben never said we should not take global warming seriously. he never even talked about doomsday prophets. this article is radically different from what he actually said.

don't know what The Daily Mail was trying to spin, but these were his actual words:

Humanity today is rightly concerned about the ecological balance of tomorrow. It is important for assessments in this regard to be carried out prudently, in dialogue with experts and people of wisdom, uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions, and above all with the aim of reaching agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances.

If the protection of the environment involves costs, they should be justly distributed, taking due account of the different levels of development of various countries and the need for solidarity with future generations.

Prudence does not mean failing to accept responsibilities and postponing decisions; it means being committed to making joint decisions after pondering responsibly the road to be taken.

OK, point taken that The Mail may have enhanced the words, but I think that his language "assessments...be carried out prudently...uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions" is pope-speak for "beware of apocalyptic soothsayers in green sandwich boards".:biggrin:
 
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OK, point taken that The Mail may have enhanced the words, but I think that his language "assessments...be carried out prudently...uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions" is pope-speak for "beware of apocalyptic soothsayers in green sandwich boards".:biggrin:

okay. agreed. he is definitely saying proceed with caution. and make joint decisions. I can buy that. but, can america? we're like children who can never accept that anything bad can happen to us... consequences don't apply here.. I like all my toys and I want more.. whatever happens in asia or africa has nothing to do with me.. they are all going to hail anyway.. :biggrin:

Prudence does not mean failing to accept responsibilities and postponing decisions; it means being committed to making joint decisions after pondering responsibly the road to be taken
 
I like the Popes idea of making the Vatican carbon nuetral, but is there a way to make something carbon negative. In otherwords not contributing to carbon pollution and possibly removing some in the process?
 
Why is it so hard to recycle, even a little bit? Keep a few bins in the garage, outside, wherever, and sort them once a week. There are recycle trailers all over the place. This is such an easy thing to do to at least help with taking care of the planet- my family does not have an option. We just do it, because it is the right thing to do. How does one exist in today's world and not be at least a little concerned or at least curious about the information coming out about global warming? Or the amount of trash we are generating and where it is going?

I was raised in a church-attending, politically conservative household. Taking care of our planet was NOT considered a "lefty" ideal. It was considered a Christian ideal. We learned in Sunday school that God gave us this planet and we should take care of it. Everyone in our town recycled as soon as they could find places to take glass bottles, newspapers, etc. Our classrooms had recycling bins. Now, my family is not totally green, but we are evolving and working on it! We have gas eating cars, we generate too much garbage, we don't recycle enough- but we recognize this and are working on it.

Thankfully a whole generation of children are becoming more aware and at least will consider taking care of their "house". Change for the better is always a good thing.
 
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:clap: Once it was patriotic to keep America beautiful. Now it is political.

OK, just for fun, what political group endorses the fuglification of the planet? And Tootsie, if there is another country that pours more aid into Africa and Asia, I would like to know who that would be.
 
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