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[Smiling JOe]

SablePoint, my apologies for lumping ph 3 and 4 together. Your analysis seems spot-on. My real point was to just make certain you are comparing apples to apples when looking at sq ft price, whether it be location, size of house, size of lot, proximity to beach, services, shopping, dining, etc, materials being used, fit and finish.

As jimmyp5 pointed out fit and finish can add greatly to the cost. My brother, a builder, installed a door, which costs $8000, last week. He has also installed a door in another house, which costs less than $500. When you start adding up the upgrades for each little fixture, door, window, flooring, fireplace, outdoor porches with second kitchens, etc, the price per sq ft can jump radically. The opposite holds true if one sticks to the less expensive fit and finishes.

 

[SablePoint]

Absolutely agree again.

When we were having builders bid to build our house, several of them were suggesting NOT using impact glass and doors because it was so expensive. And when you have LOTS of big windows and doors (12' ceilings require big windows)... it becomes incredibly expensive.

We have 3 covered porches... each requiring an exterior door. And we have a carriage house which adds another exterior door. And a garage, which adds yet another.

All in all, we have SIX exterior entrances to our house. And THREE of these have double french doors!

Finally, even though we don't really intend to rent out our house, we had to consider whether to add Ving locks in case it was ever to go in the rental program. I'm guessing that you can't just cut into a hurricane imact door to change locks... because you have to decide this ahead of time so the door manufacturer can build the door to accomodate the Ving lock. This upgrade cost $2,000 per door. That's NOT the cost of the door AND the upgrade. That's just the ADDITIONAL cost, on top of the already expensive impact door cost. And with a carriage house, that's another $2,000 upgrade.

Compare all of the above to another house that may have only 2 exterior doors (and perhaps not even impact glass on top of that).

Yes, there can be a significant difference in cost per sq. ft. from one house to another. The above example only discusses doors... but there are a hundred other cost issues that can be similarly analyzed.

Also agree with everyone else's posts... SeaGrooving, jimmyp5, Buckhead Rick, Babyblue... Thanks.

 

[SablePoint]

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Check out my Virtual Walking Tour of WaterColor



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For the most part, the compass icon represents where I was standing when I took the photo. Click on each compass icon to see the photo.

Zoom in on the satellite map for more detail. Click on any photo for a larger version (then you can even click on "Original Size" for an even larger size image).

You can start at the Beach Club and then walk northwest through Town Center, Cerulean Park, then over Western Lake to Phase 3, Cerulean Park North... to the Phase 3 Pool... then a couple blocks west to my house under construction. From my house, walk south through the woods and then over the awesome boardwalk bridge at Cadmium Park and back into Phase 1.

I also posted a few pics of Camp WaterColor in Phase 2.

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[full time]

So Jimmyp - in this buyer's market, how much would you pay per square foot for a nice Watercolor house?

 

[Smiling JOe]

So Jimmyp - in this buyer's market, how much would you pay per square foot for a nice Watercolor house?

I hope my reply doesn't come off as harsh, but this avg price comparison is what we've been talking about in the above posts. If you will read the above posts, you will see that even in a "nice WaterColor house," there is great difference between price per sf. ie- location, fit, finish, materials, lot size, total house size, carriage house, etc. Perhaps if you could narrow your question to be very specific on the type house for which you are looking to buy in WC, it might be possible for jimmy to give you a reasonable answer.

 

[SablePoint]

So Jimmyp - in this buyer's market, how much would you pay per square foot for a nice Watercolor house?

Sounds like your question is a bit "tongue-in-cheek"... and even though you didn't ask me... I'll bite anyway.

Your question is too broad. It's like asking, "How much would you pay for a Mercedes?"

(I think that's the concensus of the people posting in this thread anyway)

You must first identify:
What you want? (in terms of amenities, finishes, etc.) and...
Where you want it? (within the large and diverse WaterColor community).

Anyone wanting to assign importance to the price/sq. ft. question is either not really interested in owning in WaterColor... or, they haven't actually begun looking.

If you really want to own in WaterColor, you'll find what you want... and you'll buy it. The odds are that you won't buy the cheapest price/sq. ft. house you can find (unless that's the only thing that matters to you).

 

[John R]

the real question is: how much are you willing to pay for the finish quality you want? and that of course begs the statement: If you have to ask...

 

[SablePoint]

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No comments on my Virtual Walking Tour of WaterColor?

I was so excited once I finished it. I thought it was so cool and couldn't wait to post it for everyone to see... and was hoping to hear some "oohs" and "ahhs"!

Did anyone look at it? Maybe it wasn't easy to zoom in and view photos? Did anyone view the larger photos by clicking on the small ones? Are there too many photos?

Any comments, positive or negative, are appreciated...

Thanks.

 

[jimmyp5]

SJ and sable answered full-time's question nearly like I would ... it depends on what you're looking for, and why ... full-time, part-time, purely investment, for income or appreciation?

this is a good discussion, and has gotten a few of us talking, but i'll note also that newbie's never weighed in again after starting this thread ....

 

[egrp]

No comments on my Virtual Walking Tour of WaterColor?

I was so excited once I finished it. I thought it was so cool and couldn't wait to post it for everyone to see... and was hoping to hear some "oohs" and "ahhs"!

Did anyone look at it? Maybe it wasn't easy to zoom in and view photos? Did anyone view the larger photos by clicking on the small ones? Are there too many photos?

Any comments, positive or negative, are appreciated...

Thanks.

Wayne, actually the walking tour is very very cool...have not seen the ph III pool yet, it looks great. the frogs came out really cool. i'm sure everyone has these, but 2 things that make watercolor very special are those glass blown catails and the street lamps with the holes in them to give a starry efect. its those little things that makes u want to drop $1,000/SF on a house.

I love google earth...just wish they would have more recent images...that was probably nealy 3 yrs ago!!

thanks for sharing!!