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[mputnal]

And you persist in being wrong here on the forum. You are probably a nice and thoughtful guy irl. I’m going to try and let you be and just skip over your posts going forward. i think you have a need to express yourself here in the odd manner that you do. And as you mentioned before I don’t have to read them. That was good advice. Peace

We agree on you not reading my wrong because two wrongs don't make a right

 

[Nan MacGinnis]

Nan
Lets make sure we are not confusing Socialism with social program.

I am not a We and I am not confused (curated, remember?) I do have a question for you though: Just who, in your way of thinking, is deciding (or will get to decide) who is and who is not able-bodied? Glioblastomas, diabetes, cancer, Parkinson's, rheumatoid arthritis and myriad other conditions and illnesses that can be devastating are not always evident to the untrained eye. Are you saying you or just some random person can effectively make those judgements to slap those labels on others? Feels like fear of the "Other" to me.

 

[elgordoboy]

Possibly. Not sure what Bob’s situation is. Maybe he is temporarily unemployed because he lost his job when his company moved operations overseas to cut labor costs. Maybe he has an injury or disablity and no insurance because we have the “greatest healthcare in the world.” Maybe he was laid off because his employer found someone to work for less. I really don’t know. I do know feeding Bob and his family doesn’t make me suffer or feel cheated in any way.

Quite possible. Maybe Bob irresponsibly had many children by many different women and Bob doesn’t mind being a deadbeat. We can both pick from the left and the right of the bell curve. Charity can, and does, provide for the feeding of Bob and his family, along with many others. I know, I’ve been there when I was young.

adding- I realized I am responding just to argue. In yours and Nans examples of Bobs, the minuscule numbers dont warrant a reaction. Give them $15000 a month in assistance, it won’t move the needle in a broad sense and those folks need it in one way or the other I’m sure. I don’t mind the Bobs that didn’t make smart choices getting the $1500 either. I believe that the social safety net keeps the peace and general unrest at bay. Better to write some checks than fend off some blows.

 

[PoppaJ]

Quite possible. Maybe Bob irresponsibly had many children by many different women and Bob doesn’t mind being a deadbeat. We can both pick from the left and the right of the bell curve. Charity can, and does, provide for the feeding of Bob and his family, along with many others. I know, I’ve been there when I was young.

adding- I realized I am responding just to argue. In yours and Nans examples of Bobs, the minuscule numbers dont warrant a reaction. Give them $15000 a month in assistance, it won’t move the needle in a broad sense and those folks need it in one way or the other I’m sure. I don’t mind the Bobs that didn’t make smart choices getting the $1500 either. I believe that the social safety net keeps the peace and general unrest at bay. Better to write some checks than fend off some blows.

True, Bob could be a lazy sh*thead, but I don’t care. I have no interest in means testing the hungry.
I want everyone fed. I want everyone to have health insurance. I want child care assistance for working mothers. I want every student guaranteed four years of college.
I believe giving people better choices help them make better choices.

 

[Bob Wells]

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Not this Bob

 

[elgordoboy]

True, Bob could be a lazy sh*thead, but I don’t care. I have no interest in means testing the hungry.
I want everyone fed. I want everyone to have health insurance. I want child care assistance for working mothers. I want every student guaranteed four years of college.
I believe giving people better choices help them make better choices.

Or Trades school

 

[Bob Wells]

During the Clinton Administration they did a "program" in Minnesota or Wisconsin. The program was a welfare to work. The government subsidized an individual with continued financial assistance while they worked. I seem to remember it was a 3 year and that as the individual continued employment they would ween them off of public assistance. Program made sense then and believe it would make sense now. The saying, " give a person a fish you feed them for a day, teach a person to fish they feed themselves for life."

 

[PoppaJ]

Or Trades school

Absolutely

 

[ottomatik]

The office of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis says that more than 70 night-time flights moving migrants from the border landed in Jacksonville since the summer -- amid concerns about the effects of the border crisis on states across the country.

"Over 70 air charter flights [on] jetliner airliners coming from the southwest border have landed at Jacksonville International Airport," Larry Keefe, DeSantis’s public safety czar, told The Washington Examiner.

Looking @ the

Employment New​

find a job, fill a job, barter services

&

Rentals - Long Term New​

list or find a rental, roommates .

Perhaps the Biden lovers here should contact him & ask him to fly a few thousand to Panama City Airport or Eglin

 

[Leader of the Banned]

The office of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis says that more than 70 night-time flights moving migrants from the border landed in Jacksonville since the summer -- amid concerns about the effects of the border crisis on states across the country.

"Over 70 air charter flights [on] jetliner airliners coming from the southwest border have landed at Jacksonville International Airport," Larry Keefe, DeSantis’s public safety czar, told The Washington Examiner.

Looking @ the

Employment New​

find a job, fill a job, barter services

&

Rentals - Long Term New​

list or find a rental, roommates .

Perhaps the Biden lovers here should contact him & ask him to fly a few thousand to Panama City Airport or Eglin

If they did, I'm sure the collective IQ and overall classiness would skyrocket. But that's not saying much.