what are you listening to?

[Leader of the Banned]

Bob Dylan could kill puppy dogs and I wouldn't have a problem with it because he's Bob Dylan.

 

[Bob]

I think the folks at Fiat realize this.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

They are still made in America. I would imagine there is still plenty of American line management, although I'm not sure that's such a good thing. I've never been keen on American cars, even though I've owned more than a couple. I've also never cared for Chrysler. Bob Dylan could market his brand of high fructose GMO corn syrup to diabetic toddlers and he would still have my undying devotion.

 

[Bob]

I guess I see the micro-virtue in percentages, but that's a stretch. What is uniquely American about a failed and bailed company taken over by private equity and sold to the highest bidder from Europe? Do you hear me Budweiser? Bob Dylan gets no passes here because he needs cash flow. I get the same nausea watching Samuel Jackson(150 million net worth) push plastic servitude to pad his one percenter bank account. http://www.goiam.org/index.php/imai...er-kills-pensions-for-8000-salaried-employees

 

[Lake View Too]

While I'm certainly no Dylan-worshipper, I think he pulled off something unique: a commercial that's also a work of art. You walk away, wondering what it really was about. Was it about Fiat? Was it about America or American workers? It was poetry and promotion at the same time. In the end, it seemed to be an advertisement for Dylan more than for Chrysler, and to pull that off is pretty cool. Actually, it's kind of the same for Sam. He's just showing us he can come off as the ultimate cool badass even if he was reading the phonebook. These two guys have perfected their personas and gotten multi-nationals to pay them bonanzas to make commercials of themselves.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

I agree LVT. While it might have been specifically a Fiat commercial, it was a shout out for American automobile manufacturing in general. His roots are in that general area of the country as well. I don't doubt Dylan's sincerity. Bob Dylan could market high interest loans to unemployed single mothers and he would still have my backing, because he's Bob Dylan.

 

[Bob]

I agree LVT. While it might have been specifically a Fiat commercial, it was a shout out for American automobile manufacturing in general. His roots are in that general area of the country as well. I don't doubt Dylan's sincerity. Bob Dylan could market high interest loans to unemployed single mothers and he would still have my backing, because he's Bob Dylan.

At what point do you say,"hey that's Bob Dylan trading his legacy for shekels"

 

[Bob]

While I'm certainly no Dylan-worshipper, I think he pulled off something unique: a commercial that's also a work of art. You walk away, wondering what it really was about. Was it about Fiat? Was it about America or American workers? It was poetry and promotion at the same time. In the end, it seemed to be an advertisement for Dylan more than for Chrysler, and to pull that off is pretty cool. Actually, it's kind of the same for Sam. He's just showing us he can come off as the ultimate cool badass even if he was reading the phonebook. These two guys have perfected their personas and gotten multi-nationals to pay them bonanzas to make commercials of themselves.

I see it as "come buy a car that is made by American(sometimes) workers" that ultimately benefits a foreign corporation that has put it's employees last. I can see however that the message is compelling on the surface.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

At what point do you say,"hey that's Bob Dylan trading his legacy for shekels"

When the shekels come rolling in. Maybe his new target is mindless cynicism from hipster posers.

 

[Bob]

When the shekels come rolling in. Maybe his new target is mindless cynicism from hipster posers.

it can't be millenials...