Would You Pay Double for Gas?

[LuciferSam]

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[futurebeachbum]

Point 3- it would be a cinch to cut consumption by greater than 8%.

This is the saddest part of the whole thing. The technology we have today would allow us to dramatically reduce our energy consumption which would ultimately also reduce our oil consumption.

Just improving building energy efficiency would be huge. Couple that with the conversion of big rig trucking to CNG and our oil consumption would go down significantly (without altering our lifestyles significantly.)

Economic feasibility is really the only thing standing in the way.

 

[Gidget]

At the very end of the movie FUEL they were showing how to rebuild the oil barrel. What's the #1 thing we can do? CLEAN UP OUR ACT WHEN IT COMES TO WASTE! We could easily conserve enough to make the difference. We just waste way too much fuel, energy, materials, etc.... Even if we used no new technologies we could achieve our goal by all committing to changing our habits.

 

[TNJed]

Interesting question!

Of course we'd pay double. Not overnight, but slowly and surely we will. I already pay double relative to when it was under a buck fiddy.

Let me ask a few more....

Could you imagine paying $100/month for a mobile phone? How about paying $100/month for tv and $50/month for internets? $12/month for radio? $400 for a gaming console? $2k for a tv? $1k for a computer or three? ipod, ipad, idontknow?

Now that you've had some or all of them, can you imagine NOT paying for these?

It's amazing how all these little buggers infiltrate our lives. Tack on car insurance, health insurance, home insurance, insurance insurance, double/triple taxation and you better be driving that depreciating liability to earn those.


"That....Mr. Anderson, is the sound of inevitability."

 

[John R]

resistance is futile.

 

[Minnie]

Could you imagine paying $100/month for a mobile phone? How about paying $100/month for tv and $50/month for internets? $12/month for radio? $400 for a gaming console? $2k for a tv? $1k for a computer or three? ipod, ipad, idontknow?

The problem is the people that would be affected the most by rising gas prices, do not own any of this.

You do know there are many people like that, don't you or maybe you don't.

Sometimes I wonder on this forum if people do realize how many people have so much less than they do.

And many of them commute to 30-A to provide that life so many others enjoy.

Gidget and Jenny said it best. You can't expect changes over night. No one wants oil on the beaches but alternative ways to provide energy and a decrease in demand have to be in place first. An even worse nightmare would be for the US to be totally dependent on oil for the Middle East so we will have to be less dependent to make sure that does not happen.

In the meantime safety and responsible drilling have to be the focus.

 

[TNJed]

The problem is the people that would be affected the most by rising gas prices, do not own any of this.

You do know there are many people like that, don't you or maybe you don't.

Sometimes I wonder on this forum if people do realize how many people have so much less than they do.

Fair and valid points. My post wasn't meant to be all encompassing. But rather examples of how drastically things can eventually change when taken one step at a time.

These are just symptoms of a much larger cultural shift. Perhaps the very symptoms explaining why there is such a discrepancy between my list and yours?

The greed of a relative few affect the needs of many.

It's a broken culture, is my point. Everyone thinks it's someone's elses fault or someone's ideology and I merely think it's the inevitability of too many people vying for too few resources.

It'll all work out the way it works out.

 

[Minnie]

Fair and valid points. My post wasn't meant to be all encompassing. But rather examples of how drastically things can eventually change when taken one step at a time.

These are just symptoms of a much larger cultural shift. Perhaps the very symptoms explaining why there is such a discrepancy between my list and yours?

The greed of a relative few affect the needs of many.

It's a broken culture, is my point. Everyone thinks it's someone's elses fault or someone's ideology and I merely think it's the inevitability of too many people vying for too few resources.

It'll all work out the way it works out.

Agree.

 

[Gidget]

Interesting tidbit on electric cars:

It takes energy (about 12 kWh) to explore for oil, drill, pump, ship, refine, distribute, and pump a gallon of gasoline into a car. If this energy is used directly by an electric car, which can go about 48 miles on 12 kWh, we would be net savers of energy compared to a gasoline car, which can go about 30 MPG. And, if you add up the energy to produce a gallon of gasoline (12 kWh) plus the energy in the gallon of gasoline (33.7 kWh), you get 45.7 kWh. A 100% electric car can go about 183 miles on 45.7 kWh, which is over 6 times farther than a gasoline car can go on one gallon of gasoline.

What we want to do is convert our old car to an ev and trickle charge it w/the extra solar energy we produce. That would be so cool!

 

[Gidget]

True we don't have everything in place, but as I said before, we waste so much energy. Conservation is the NUMBER 1 KEY! So if we had commitment to conservation from all citizens we would have no need for drilling off our shores. I am NOT a fan of any offshore drilling and here's why

Federal records show steady stream of oil spills in gulf since 1964

Check out this video showing the opportunities for Florida - we need leadership who will lead this country to conserve and we need to get on the ball with alternatives that are in place. Why not all new buildings come to code for clean energy? Why are we still building 2x4 houses in FL what with the heat and storms? Crazy!

Opportunities for Florida on Vimeo