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FSU suspends over 1/4 of FB team for cheating

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buster

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http://www.nolesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071218/FSU03/71218018

YOWZA this looks bad for the state university system and it looks like the number of players caught might rise. I am ashamed to be a Floridian. Yuck!



"Florida State will be without at least 11 available players with starting experience when it plays Kentucky in the Music City Bowden.

Twenty-three players, as of Tuesday afternoon, are expected to be penalized as a result of an academic misconduct case involving student-athletes and a former tutor who provided improper help with an online test, according to sources close to the process. An FSU official said the number could still grow or decrease. FSU confirmed, in a statement released Tuesday afternoon, up to 25 players will not participate in the bowl. Bobby Bowden did not specifically address the academic misconduct case.

?Some of our players will not travel with us to the bowl game,? Bowden said. ?We have some players not traveling for one reason and some for another, including those who are ineligible for the bowl because of academic issues. We can not be more specific than that at this time.?

?Our staff is in the process of determining what adjustments we must make for the game. We will have a few practices to get our plans in place.?

The total group, according to sources, also includes at least four walk-ons as well as several players who would not have played in the bowl game for reasons other than them being involved in the case.

The interview process continued into this morning when at least one player spoke with FSU officials. A high-placed university source said that the interview process has been completed. Involved players will continue to practice but will not travel with the team to Nashville.

Underclassmen who have admitted wrongdoing are expected to be suspended 3.6 games, including the bowl. Although the exact penalty is believed to have not yet been determined by NCAA, the penalty will carry into next season.

FSU President T.K. Wetherell and Bobby Bowden confirmed last week that players would not participate in the bowl. Wetherell is on vacation.

Lee Hinkle, vice president for University relations, said FSU will not identify the players because of federal student privacy laws.

She added that not all players who will miss the game because of rule violations are tied to the case. Hinkle said the university?s final report into academic misconduct will be completed by the first of the year.

In other FSU news, offensive line coach Rick Trickett was not at practice. He is expected to be interviewing for the West Virginia head coaching vacancy. "
 
Nice to know that academics are still a priority..!
 
With so many eyes and ears out and about, I think one would have to be dumb to take a risk cheating, but then again, they if they were cheating, they fit the bill of being dumb. At least the school has the balls to suspend the players.

If anyone should be ashamed, it should be the players who cheated and their accomplices, not the school or alumni, who in my opinion should be proud that FSU is doing the right thing by benching these players.
 
With so many eyes and ears out and about, I think one would have to be dumb to take a risk cheating, but then again, they if they were cheating, they fit the bill of being dumb. At least the school has the balls to suspend the players.

If anyone should be ashamed, it should be the players who cheated and their accomplices, not the school or alumni, who in my opinion should be proud that FSU is doing the right thing by benching these players.

Balls? The university investigated earlier in the year and suspended 2 players. The NCAA investigators came to town and now around 25 are suspended, with possibly more to come. There were many cheaters fom other sports also.

I disagree with you. The school should also be ashamed along with the employees and students who cheated, and the alumni should not be proud.

This is not out of control boosters or agents that the school has little control over. These are employees of the university and scholarship football players committing systematic, widespread, long term academic fraud. What the NCAA may deem "lack of institutional control".

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159534

The school's investigation found that a tutor gave students answers while they were taking tests and filled in answers on quizzes and typed papers for students.
 
Hang 'em high on the town square! lol. I guess I don't keep up with FSU enough to know about the long term ongoing investigation.
 
Hang 'em high on the town square! lol. I guess I don't keep up with FSU enough to know about the long term ongoing investigation.

There you go again...
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Balls? The university investigated earlier in the year and suspended 2 players. The NCAA investigators came to town and now around 25 are suspended, with possibly more to come. There were many cheaters fom other sports also.

I disagree with you. The school should also be ashamed along with the employees and students who cheated, and the alumni should not be proud.

This is not out of control boosters or agents that the school has little control over. These are employees of the university and scholarship football players committing systematic, widespread, long term academic fraud. What the NCAA may deem "lack of institutional control".

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159534

Wow, Kurt, I wasn't aware of that. I was in the same boat with SJ for a moment there, but I think you just handed us our reality check.

I knew it went on in the schools but not to this extent. This is a lot of people looking away as players are pushed through the system. This is why Bobby has no control over these kids. He has to be aware of it. This is going to leave a black mark on his record. Yet another asterisk in the world of sports.

I'm sure that not only was it allowed to happen, but promoted and put in place by the powers that be to create a team. If we have a good team, there's more income and its all about making money, so the cheating, if not caught is an investment.

Which is why we have the season of a thousand bowl games. Its all about sponsorship and monies to be made.

Makes me sick. Darn shame.

dka:angry:
 
As if this is new news. Jeez. Give me a freakin' break.

Yeah, it's a serious problem. No, it should not have happened. Yes, we as fans, alumni and Boosters are angry and disappointed that there were members of our faculty - one Phd and a couple of support staff - that would compromise themselves. Obviously, we are not pleased that so many of our regular students and our student-athletes would take advantage of such a situation. But remember, it was a football player who brought it to the attention of the administration, and in turn our administration (who I do have issues with) reported it to the NCAA and took other proactive steps to curb it.

Again, this is a mess. A mess that should not have happened. But, I challenge any school - ANY school - that offers online education and that allows students who live on campus to take such classes to claim that no form of cheating exists.

Lastly, when relying on media outlets in Florida, always remember which university in our state offers a journalism degree...and while we don't help matters any by giving them something to write about, you can rest assured that if Bobby Bowden farts, it will be reported on the front page, but let ten of their players get arrested during the fall, and somehow all the charges go away...
 
Balls? The university investigated earlier in the year and suspended 2 players. The NCAA investigators came to town and now around 25 are suspended, with possibly more to come. There were many cheaters fom other sports also.

I disagree with you. The school should also be ashamed along with the employees and students who cheated, and the alumni should not be proud.

This is not out of control boosters or agents that the school has little control over. These are employees of the university and scholarship football players committing systematic, widespread, long term academic fraud. What the NCAA may deem "lack of institutional control".

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159534

"Lack of institutional control." The gators have had 20 or so players arrested over the past couple of years. How do you define that if what's happening at FSU is "lack of instituitional control"? Stop acting like a gator and just accept the fact that we all recruit the same element and that you reap what you sow. Show me a fan of a big time college team that denies this and I'll show you a liar.
 
The term "lack of institutional control" is one the NCAA rules committee uses for a situation where the head coach and/or administration should have known about a bad situation. It will be interesting to see what they decide when they complete their investigation. The number suspended has grown to 36. I would almost feel sorry for the players if they walked into a situation where cheating was encouraged. But I guess they could have said no.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-ed26307dec26,0,5323233.story
Our position: It's wrong for FSU to marginalize its cheating scandal
December 26, 2007
This is what amounts to Florida State University coming to grips with its academic scandal.
In the athletic department, they're keying on how the football team will stay competitive in its Dec. 31 bowl game, what with 36 players sidelined, many of them found cheating on exams.
In the president's office, T.K. Wetherell is emphasizing the scandal's smallness.
"A faculty member" and "one rogue tutor," he noted on Friday.
Focusing on the bowl game while working to diminish the scandal's seriousness only highlights FSU's immaturity, however. It's not, simply, about winning; it's also about educating students, athletes included. And it's about admitting failure. There's no shortage at FSU, which the NCAA undoubtedly soon will make clear.
 
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