Principal Obama

[Jdarg]

I do admire your desire and compassion for helping children succeed. If you want to start helping kids be more successful, here are a few ideas Obama could discuss:

- start keeping score in all levels of sports
- bring back the occasional spanking
- get rid of all the ritalin and bs mood swing drugs
- and please take their helmets off

Hippie parenting has lead to the wussification of America's youth.

Do you have children?

 

[LuciferSam]

I already said it was there to some degree during GW's tenure. Remember- I am not advancing a theory as to why we have disagreement between 2 politcial parties and their ideologies. I am advancing a theory as to why we are so polarized and in particular- why Obama is FEARED...
Some people- yes. But nothing that would have made it into the mainstream. Heck- my grandmother is saying it. She NEVER would have used that word. There was a handyman handing out business cards at Home Depot yesterday wearing a "Fed up with Socialism" teeshirt. Of course the word and its concept existed. But not for the vast majority who throw it around these days. It was mostly only heard in polysci and history classes.

Consider this-
Clinton tried to pass healthcare reform. He lost. Can you recall socialism being any part of argument used by his opposition? I honestly can't. I suspect that's because no one taught people like my grandmother to use this word to scare and rally others against his ideas. It wasn't in the GOP playbook or they didn't need to break it out.

I think you are correct. I do not see Obama's politics as being that much different than Clinton's. The socialist words simply weren't part of the republican talking points 15 years ago. When Obama entered the picture it soon became clear that his race was not going to be a detriment, much to the dismay of his detractors. Derogatory labels, some of them even contradictory, were quickly applied to Obama. Legitimacy of the labeling was not an issue. Whatever scares you the most today, that's what Obama is. Tomorrow is a new day awaiting the application of yet another term, poorly understood by the target audience.

 

[Miss Kitty]

This entire thread is absolutely appalling!

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Thank you for so definitely demonstrating why our country is falling apart and why we cannot get anything done.

...what she said. I was going to send y'all to your rooms, again, but this will do.

disclaimer...I couldn't catch up with this even if I tried. Saw enough to see the same old same old lines are drawn. I am glad to see some continue to think outside the box and don't fall into one camp time and time again, because that's all they know. I, for one, am interested in what Mr. Obama has to say and I would have welcomed any President into my classroom. He is, after all, the supreme superintendant.

imo, the name callers are simply, cowards and bullies. Of course, just because people dont "call" posters names, doesn't mean it isn't implied. Bravo to those that stick to the issue and try to see things from both sides. That's where the common ground is.

carry on (without the name calling, please!)

 

[Gidget]

...what she said. I was going to send y'all to your rooms, again, but this will do.

disclaimer...I couldn't catch up with this even if I tried. Saw enough to see the same old same old lines are drawn. I am glad to see some continue to think outside the box and don't fall into one camp time and time again, because that's all they know. I, for one, am interested in what Mr. Obama has to say and I would have welcomed any President into my classroom.

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Miss Kitty, I noticed both you and Winnie said positive things about the speech. I only hope I can be objective like that when it comes to future issues.

You know what's funny is that the speech hasn't even been made lol!

Won't be back till after Labor Day. Have fun and be careful and remember, we are all Americans and let's all take a deep breath and chill. SURELY if Dems and Libertarians, etc... could support Bush after 911 we can all support a little ole' speech from our Pres to the kiddies.

To all and to all a buenas noches.

G

 

[Miss Kitty]

Miss Kitty, I noticed both you and Winnie said positive things about the speech. I only hope I can be objective like that when it comes to future issues.

You know what's funny is that the speech hasn't even been made lol!

Won't be back till after Labor Day. Have fun and be careful and remember, we are all Americans and let's all take a deep breath and chill. SURELY if Dems and Libertarians, etc... could support Bush after 911 we can all support a little ole' speech from our Pres to the kiddies.

To all and to all a buenas noches.

G

Almost typed that one myself. One would never know that by reading most of the posts in this thread. ;-) Give Mr. Obama a chance...he may jsut surprise the disbelievers and give the youth and adults of America the kick in the rear we all need. If one believes strongly enough to deny their child this opportunity, heaven knows what else they will miss out on in life.

It is truly a shame people have been divided into these neat little dem, rep, lib stereotypes around here, like they have no brains to think for themselves.

 

[Geo]

Just being real-
I am embarrassed by the attitudes of those who take issue with this president speaking to our youth. The comparisons to North Korea, Saddam Hussein, the continued misuse of the term socialism. I agree with Bill Maher that America is stupid.

Go ahead- make the point that I haven't served in the military so I take for granted my freedom of speech to say such things. Call me a liberal (gasp). Frame me as being unAmerican or lacking patriotism. Call me elite. Tell me that if I don't like it that I should move somewhere else. Yawn...

 

[Teresa]

Miss Kitty, I noticed both you and Winnie said positive things about the speech. I only hope I can be objective like that when it comes to future issues.

You know what's funny is that the speech hasn't even been made lol!

Won't be back till after Labor Day. Have fun and be careful and remember, we are all Americans and let's all take a deep breath and chill. SURELY if Dems and Libertarians, etc... could support Bush after 911 we can all support a little ole' speech from our Pres to the kiddies.

To all and to all a buenas noches.

G

excellent advice Gidget. thanks for your positive words and contributions - they are like a breath of fresh air!

 

[GoodWitch58]

Almost typed that one myself. One would never know that by reading most of the posts in this thread. ;-) Give Mr. Obama a chance...he may jsut surprise the disbelievers and give the youth and adults of America the kick in the rear we all need. If one believes strongly enough to deny their child this opportunity, heaven knows what else they will miss out on in life.

It is truly a shame people have been divided into these neat little dem, rep, lib stereotypes around here, like they have no brains to think for themselves.

Yes, Miss Kitty, we all need a kick in the rear when it comes to education...perhaps the President could talk to some of the adults....I think the kids are probably 'way ahead of many of us this time.

On the campus I do not see this kind of fear--I see excitment and confidence, and hope for a better future and enthusiasm for getting involved. And, an energy that was not there before.

Just this morning I had a long "listen" with a young man who has had a very difficult time and had not done as well with school as he could have. It was inspiring to hear him tell me his story and begin to talk about his goals and how he had turned his attitude and his grades around during last semester--and how well he is now doing in a pre-calculus class! when a few years ago, he could barely do basic math.

The people who are deciding to take their children out of school and filling the environment with so much fear, are truly doing a disservice to both the children and our country, but most of all to themselves. IMO No one can live a productive life with so much bitterness and anger, and hatred toward another person. What a horrible example it sets for the students. It defies comprehension, and I find it very sad.

 

[Teresa]

thank you very much GW. You have stated my exact bottom line feelings on the subject.

The people who are deciding to take their children out of school and filling the environment with so much fear, are truly doing a disservice to both the children and our country, but most of all to themselves. IMO No one can live a productive life with so much bitterness and anger, and hatred toward another person. What a horrible example it sets for the students. It defies comprehension, and I find it very sad.

 

[Geo]

GW58, my thx button is gone for now. SO thx for that great post...
G