Some numbers on the Senate Health Care Bill

[Andy A]

0-the number of provisions prohibiting the rationing of healthcare.
0-the number of government-run entitlement programs that are financially sound over the long term.
10.2 percent-our national unemployment rate, the highest in 26 years.
70-total number of government programs authorized by the bill.
1,697-times the Secretary of Health and Human Services is given authority to determine or define provisions in this bill.
2,074-total pages in this bill
2010-the year Americans start paying higher taxes to pay for this bill.
2014-the year when this bill actually starts most of the major provisions of this bill.
$6.8 million-cost to taxpayers per word.
$8 billion-the total amount of new taxes on Americans who do not buy Washington-defined health care.
$465 billion-Cuts in Medicare at a time when it faces a $38 trillion unfunded liability to finance more government spending.
$494 billion-total amount of new taxes in this bill.
$2.5 trillion-the real cost of the bill.
$12 trillion-our total national debt.

These are the numbers that Orrin Hatch presented on the floor of the Senate.

Someplace, folks, we have to stop spending ourselves into oblivion. To me, this is a good place to start.

 

[sullygromo]

Total Cost of Wars Since 2001

$935,353,415,967


We could also start there.

 

[Winnie]

Total Cost of Wars Since 2001

$935,353,415,967


We could also start there.

I totally saw that coming.

I wonder what the costs of no wars would be?

And since we are spending so much on wars, maybe the government should borrow more money and provide free food and housing to everyone in the United States.

 

[Blair]

I totally saw that coming.

I wonder what the costs of no wars would be?

And since we are spending so much on wars, maybe the government should borrow more money and provide free food and housing to everyone in the United States.

Yep...Stevie Wonder could have seen that one coming.....

 

[Bob]

Michael Gerson - Michael Gerson on forcing the young to fund health reform - washingtonpost.com Making the young pay for health reform

By Michael Gerson
Wednesday, November 4, 2009

As I was talking recently with the founder of a large American corporation, the conversation turned (inevitably) to health-care reform. His employees in their 20s, on average, cost the company about $1,500 a year in health bills. Those in their 50s cost at least 10 times more. The effect of proposed health-care reform -- which limits the ability of insurers to charge higher premiums for older adults -- would be, he said, a large shift of America's health-care burden to the younger generation.

This is not an unintended consequence of reform; it is the whole purpose. It is not a side effect; it is the main funding mechanism.

once again, the older generation will not pay their share..

 

[Bob]

means test and reduce medicare/social security/government pension payments, and you could solve our fiscal problems pronto

 

[LuciferSam]

I totally saw that coming.

I wonder what the costs of no wars would be?

And since we are spending so much on wars, maybe the government should borrow more money and provide free food and housing to everyone in the United States.

If you're talking about wars since WWII, It's more like imagine how much better off we would be if we hadn't fought those wars, not what would the cost have been.

 

[Bob]

from mccarthy to mccain it's been one boogeyman after another

 

[Winnie]

If you're talking about wars since WWII, It's more like imagine how much better off we would be if we hadn't fought those wars, not what would the cost have been.

You may be right. We'll never know. It's also possible you are wrong.

Personally, I think that there are worse bullies than the United States.

In any event, military spending is a poor excuse for domestic extravagance.

 

[LuciferSam]

You may be right. We'll never know. It's also possible you are wrong.

Personally, I think that there are worse bullies than the United States.

In any event, military spending is a poor excuse for domestic extravagance.

I agree on all counts. Also I don't think it's necessarily because we are bullies. I believe we usually have the best of intentions.