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Exactly SWGB and Lucifer Sam,

We need to be in the know when making these decisions and no piece of the puzzle is insignificant. Sometimes we know(inside), even what we don't know(factually), but it is still best to be as educated as possible so the best possible decision can be made.

Thanks guys:wub:
 
Exactly SWGB and Lucifer Sam,

We need to be in the know when making these decisions and no piece of the puzzle is insignificant. Sometimes we know(inside), even what we don't know(factually), but it is still best to be as educated as possible so the best possible decision can be made.

Thanks guys:wub:

Despite her credentials the incumbent is fighting education. An educated electorate is a dangerous electorate.
 
I have never met Miss Coley and she seems like a nice enough person, but in my opinion her inability to recognize a threat to the very economic engine that drives Florida is unforgivable. This isn't a liberal-conservative issue, Republican-Democrat issue, this is a common sense issue and she flunked the litmus test.
 
Marti Coley also claims to represent the rural communities and coastal counties. Oddly 75% of her contributions come from outside of her district. While some of those businesses are simply corporate offices, some are questionable. Why is she accepting contributions from a company like Phoenix University? We already have community colleges, state colleges, and universities in her district. All of those offer distance learning without the predatory lending practices that come with for profit colleges.

Ms. Coley has been an educator for years. Her Marianna district office is at Chipola Community College. I am quite sure that she is a big supporter of Chipola and is not on their payroll. Do you guys realize that a $500 contribution is small potatoes in an election and in no way shape or form will lead to a respectable person like Ms. Coley to vote for an item that is not in the best interest of her constituents.

BTW, Phoenix University has 16 campuses throughout Florida and Ms. Coley is on one of the House Education Committees. So I would not consider it a crime that she has received a small donation from them.
 
I have never met Miss Coley and she seems like a nice enough person, but in my opinion her inability to recognize a threat to the very economic engine that drives Florida is unforgivable. This isn't a liberal-conservative issue, Republican-Democrat issue, this is a common sense issue and she flunked the litmus test.

So doctor, would you prefer to have a trial attorney in the Florida House of Representatives to be against tort reform, loosen the criteria for expert witnesses, and remove the PIP payments to doctors first in automobile accidents. You are being a pawn in believing the rhetoric about our fine representative.
 
Perhaps you should go to the source.

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/candidate/CanDetail.asp?account=50333

09/24/2009 500.00 FLORIDA STATE PAC PROGRESS ENE
10/17/2009 250.00 CHEVRON CORPORATION

Granted I didn't google all of the PAC's that have contributed or the lobbyists, but I'm betting there's more money from Oil interests there.

Were you guys so concerned about this in the 2008 presidential race??? This is reposted from the Washington Post, a pretty reputable source

The Democratic National Committee may be trying to get some mileage out of recent news about oil industry contributions to Republican Sen. John McCain, launching a web site spoofing the idea of McCain sharing his presidential ticket with Exxon. But they may have found an unwelcome surprise in a just-released analysis by the Center for Responsive Politics.
Turns out, the biggest recipient of contributions from Exxon executives and employees during this campaign is not McCain. It's Obama.
The non-partisan center writes: "Through June, Exxon employees have given Obama $42,100 to McCain's $35,166. Chevron favors Obama $35,157 to $28,500, and Obama edges out McCain with BP $16,046 vs. $11,500."
 
Can you help me a bit? How long does it take from the first weld to realization of refined fuel? Where would the rigs be fabricated? Where would the oil be refined? Where do the support boats sail from? Where are the taxes collected from all the above? How much $$/per barrel will be coming to Florida? How will this industry support Florida?


I gotta be honest I do not know, but right now I know there are large reserves of oil and natural gas 10 to 50 miles off our coast and there is no exploration at this time. Our House of Representatives is trying to get the ball rolling early on to make sure that IF the feds open up drilling in that range that they are ready to represent the citizens of Florida in a way that expands our tax base. I would guess that port of Panama City and the rail line to the port would be involved in the process. I understand refineries to be expensive and ugly so I would guess these would remain in TX where their coastline lacks any real beauty. I can be done in a minimally invasive manner, but I guess some folks would rather stick their heads in the sand.
 
So doctor, would you prefer to have a trial attorney in the Florida House of Representatives to be against tort reform, loosen the criteria for expert witnesses, and remove the PIP payments to doctors first in automobile accidents. You are being a pawn in believing the rhetoric about our fine representative.

Actually doc, I am stating facts. In choosing candidates I vote for I don't get stuck on professions. I'm not sure if Miss Coley introduced any legislation to address the issues you cite above. My guess is no, and I base that upon the HOR website. She certainly doesn't have any malpractice reform measures slated for 2010.

Frankly, I am way more worried about Coley's apparent inability to process a concept so 'profound' as not screwing with the leading economic engine this state has. Wouldn't you agree that killing the golden goose is never a good idea?

I realize you were born and raised here. Let me share some outside perspective with you since I am from Louisiana. The act of extracting and transporting petroleum from Florida waters is inviting disaster. Period. You can get hung up on the fact that Coley's opponent is a trial lawyer, but this simply distracts from the fact that Coley demonstrated the worst sort of judgment in even entertaining the idea of letting our coasts go under the gun.
 
I gotta be honest I do not know, but right now I know there are large reserves of oil and natural gas 10 to 50 miles off our coast and there is no exploration at this time. Our House of Representatives is trying to get the ball rolling early on to make sure that IF the feds open up drilling in that range that they are ready to represent the citizens of Florida in a way that expands our tax base. I would guess that port of Panama City and the rail line to the port would be involved in the process. I understand refineries to be expensive and ugly so I would guess these would remain in TX where their coastline lacks any real beauty. I can be done in a minimally invasive manner, but I guess some folks would rather stick their heads in the sand.


The problem with that is that oil rigs 10-50 miles offshore will hurt tourism and severely impede Eglin's mission. Who cares about the port at Panama City if Eglin and Tyndell close and the tourist industry declines?
Better think about this a little more.
 
I gotta be honest I do not know, but right now I know there are large reserves of oil and natural gas 10 to 50 miles off our coast and there is no exploration at this time. Our House of Representatives is trying to get the ball rolling early on to make sure that IF the feds open up drilling in that range that they are ready to represent the citizens of Florida in a way that expands our tax base. I would guess that port of Panama City and the rail line to the port would be involved in the process. I understand refineries to be expensive and ugly so I would guess these would remain in TX where their coastline lacks any real beauty. I can be done in a minimally invasive manner, but I guess some folks would rather stick their heads in the sand.

You are obviously willing to believe oil industry propaganda over less biased sources of information. The bill Ms. Coley voted for would have allowed drilling from 3-10 miles off the coast. The industry makes reference to underwater platforms to reassure us of minimum impact--but there are no waters in the 3-10 mile zone with with sufficient depth (as off the coast of Africa) to use submersible platforms. The industry also assures us that platforms can be as small as one acre and only 220 feet high -- so they would be clearly visible from the shore.

The bill Ms. Coley vote for also would have allowed the BCC to lease for oil drilling between the shore and the three mile limit. Additionally, it would have given the oilmen easements to the shore and across the beaches.

The gulf coasts of Texas and Louisiana were not always ugly. I'd encourage you to look at some of the works of Fonville Winans to develop an appreciation of what Louisiana and Texas lost to the oil industry. There aren't a lot of Obagi and Botox consuming patients in Port Fourchon, doctor. While I always respect someone willing vote against their own self-interest, I don't understand why someone would vote against the interests of the whole community.
 
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