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These are Not Good Reasons to be Against Health Insurance Reform

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GoodWitch58

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I wish that the Democrats had used these as talking points months ago:


Greetings to my conservative readers, who have vented and philosophized about President Obama's health reform drive in countless comments and e-mails. I want to talk today to you.

Obviously, it is your perfect right to oppose what Obama and Democrats are trying to do. And there are legitimate reasons to do so. Maybe you think the government shouldn't be in the business of trying to make sure all Americans have health coverage. Maybe you think that would be nice, but we can't afford it. Maybe you oppose raising any taxes or fees to help finance changes in the health care system, or you think any savings we can wring out of it should be used for other priorities.

Yet these are not always the reasons readers offer for their (sometimes ALL-CAPS, often vitriolic) opposition -- as anyone can see in the comments sections of every column I write about health care. Here are some of the charges and claims, and why I think they are not the right reasons to oppose the health overhaul before Congress:
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1. It is socialism. The Democratic plan would add about 15 million people over 10 years to Medicaid, the existing federal-state program now serving about 60 million poor and low-income Americans. It also would provide subsidies to middle-income families to help them buy private coverage. The bottom line, however, is there is no new government health program in the bill. The House passed a government-run plan (the "public option") in its health bill, but the Senate bill doesn't have one and the final product won't, either. Private insurance companies would not only survive under this bill, they would get millions of new customers. That doesn't sound like socialism.

2. It is a government takeover. The federal government would certainly be more involved in regulating insurance companies. The government would also set up and regulate a competitive new exchange, or marketplace, where small businesses and the uninsured could buy coverage. But the coverage would all be plans offered by private companies. The bill is, in fact, designed to preserve employer-based health benefits and the private insurance industry. So, increased government role, yes. Government takeover, no.

3. It is being "rammed through." There's a 100-year history of failed presidential attempts to achieve universal health coverage. The topic was discussed at length throughout the 2007-2008 presidential campaign. Since last January, it has consumed 15 months of hearings, legislating and debate in Congress. The House passed its bill in November and the Senate, by a 60-40 super-majority, passed its version in December. Take your pick -- a century, three years, 15 months -- but this doesn't meet any definition of "ramming."

4. Reconciliation is "ramming" AND cheating. Reconciliation is a Senate budget process instituted 30 years ago. Since reconciliation bills can't be filibustered, they need only 51 votes to pass -- so everybody uses them to get things done. A chart of 15 major reconciliation initiatives in last weekend's New York Times shows that Republicans have used the process many more times than Democrats. And we're not talking small ball. Republican presidents have signed reconciliation bills that, among other things, cut welfare benefits, expanded health coverage, raised taxes, reduced taxes and overhauled the student aid system. In this case, reconciliation will be used to amend a bill that's already passed the Senate with 60 votes. Cataclysmic, as Sen. John McCain put it? I think not.

5. It is unconstitutional. The bill requires every American to buy health insurance, including healthy people, and offers subsidies to help middle-income families. Insurance companies sought the mandate, saying it is the only way to keep premium costs from skyrocketing once they are not allowed to deny coverage to people with pre-existing medical conditions, drop sick people or limit annual and lifetime coverage (all popular provisions of the health bill). The mandate would not be the first imposed by state or federal governments -- they already require people to buy car insurance, buckle seat belts and wear motorcycle helmets, not to mention make sure their children are educated. Conservatives used to promote the health insurance mandate on grounds of personal responsibility. It's the law in Massachusetts.

6. It has sleazy special deals. The most notorious are the Cornhusker Kickback for Nebraska (permanent federal payments for Medicaid expansion) and the Florida exemption (seniors there would get to keep private Medicare Advantage plans that cost more than regular Medicare and are subsidized by taxpayers). The final package will not have these special deals. For procedural reasons, House members must first approve the Senate bill, which does include them, but the "fix" package -- possibly to be voted on the same day -- will remove them.

7. It would penalize senior citizens by cutting Medicare. The Senate bill would save more than $400 billion over 10 years by ending subsidies to Medicare Advantage and reducing projected payments to insurance companies, hospitals, drug companies and other players (some have already agreed to keep prices down). Seniors in regular Medicare would get the same benefits they have now, as well as additional services, like free preventive care. The AARP, which has 40 million members over age 50, says it supports health reform because it will put Medicare on a sounder fiscal footing.

8. It would do too little to curb costs. Amazingly, some people argue both No. 7 and No. 8. There are, in fact, many provisions intended to control costs. They include financial incentives for doctors and hospitals to provide efficient, coordinated care (rather than getting reimbursed for every test, procedure and hospital readmission); research into what treatments work best; a focus on preventive services and chronic care; pilot programs on ways to limit malpractice suits and awards; and an independent advisory board to recommend cost-saving changes in Medicare. These and other cost-cutting steps are described here.

9. It isn't popular. Did voters in Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts send clear messages -- by electing Republicans -- that they don't want this health package? Inconclusive at best. The economy is almost always the primary factor in election outcomes. Beyond that, Democrats had exceptionally weak candidates in all three states. The latest national poll from Gallup found slightly more people saying they'd advise their representative to vote against rather than for health reform. In a new poll from The Economist, 53 percent said they support Obama's proposed changes to the health care system. It's fair to say the country is split. In any case, Obama and Congress are not bound by polls.

10. It doesn't give us the same coverage as Congress. Actually, Congress is trying to provide similar coverage through these state exchanges. They are modeled on the Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan, which looks like this. The offerings are mostly from private insurers and every federal employee -- including members of the House and Senate -- pays for his or her own coverage. In time, I'm betting people who get coverage at work will be jealous of those who get it on the exchanges. They'll have choices, just like Congress does. Eventually the exchanges may open up to the rest of us as well.




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Ten Wrong Reasons to Oppose Health Reform -- Politics Daily
 
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I can't think of any reason to oppose reform. Nor do I know anyone who does oppose reform.
 
It's all a big scam. We can't afford this.

Job creation should be the top priority but no one really seems to care about the important things.
 
I have only heard people on both sides discuss the need for reform. Not to be confused with what was recently proposed. I guess it's semantics.
 
I can't think of any reason to oppose reform. Nor do I know anyone who does oppose reform.

I can certainly think of quite a few reasons to oppose the senate bill. Seems progressives, moderates, independents, and republicans feel the same way. Now that's what I call bipartisanship! :lol:
 
It's all a big scam. We can't afford this.

Job creation should be the top priority but no one really seems to care about the important things.

I think we can't afford not to do it...

Commentary: Health reform is fiscally responsible | tallahassee.com | Tallahassee Democrat

Some fiscal hawks have contended that we should scrap comprehensive health reform altogether and focus on "cost first" — using the savings in our plan to reduce the deficit instead of covering more Americans. But even leaving aside the moral imperative of extending coverage to millions of Americans, it seems implausible that Congress would take the crucial step of creating a dynamic infrastructure dedicated solely to deficit reduction, and it would likely mean leaving out critical reforms — such as encouraging providers to coordinate care and paying them based on the quality of health outcomes — designed to create market forces for our health system to continue improving itself over time.
 
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I honestly think this will pass over the weekend, so I guess we will find out. Generally, it represents increased federal spending on healthcare, about 200-300 billion per year once fully enacted, based on estimates. We can assume the estimates are under-estimated, as with all government spending initiatives. My guess would be more around 500 billion a year. The other concern I have is that in order to reduce the deficit, the plan relies on tax increases to increase revenue, and major cuts to Medicare. Many of those taxes/cuts are so toxic, the current congress was unwilling to implement them until they are likely out of office. An outstanding question will remain, will future congresses, faced with major tax increases and cuts, let those take effect, or repeal them down the road.

Overall, this represents a massive growth of government spending. That's not surprising, although it's a little heady considering the current federal government is already spending 3.2 trillion a year today.

The final health sandwich bill should be out here in a bit, will be interesting to see what Pelosi and her compatriots decided to do about "bending the cost curve". Certain key measures in the Senate bill were not popular with their special interests.
 
Eventually the money runs out... very real consequences that Americans have never seen before.

And to think a Federal Income tax didn't exist prior to the 20th Century... How did we do it for 125+ years.
 
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