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I agree but what we do have is an incredible pressure cooker of media, overpopulation, sleep deficit, drugs, pressure, inadequate mental health care, lack of discourse, impatience, ignorance, bigotry .... the list goes on.

I see a lot of people who can't deal with the outside world because they don't have a clue who is staring back at them from the mirror. I wish that doctors could prescribe a bit of stillness. Silence.

As Jimmy Buffett penned, there is a magic kind of medicine no doctor can prescribe.

My point was that there should be some rational evaluation of the facts before any one person, other than the gunman, is blamed. Before the blood was cleaned up people were blaming Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck and the Tea Party people and their 'unprecedented' rhetoric. Well, first, the rhetoric is not unprecedented, and second, blaming people for things they had nothing to do with creates larger problems. The war in Iraq comes to mind.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the gunman was not politically motivated, rather criminally insane. Period.

The FBI will do a great job getting to the bottom of this fellow's motivations. I bet it has nothing to do with any particular politican or entertainer. Of course, by then, the shameless opportunists who take advantage of spectacular events such as these will have accomplished their goal, that being to work as many people into a lather as possible to some perverse endpoint that benefits them, be it political, TV ratings or funding.
 
I think this journalist has a very accurate view of the situation.

The Politicized Mind
By DAVID BROOKS of the New York Times.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/opinion/11brooks.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=david%20brooks%20before%20he%20allegedly%20went%20off%20on%20his%20shooting%20rampage&st=cse

Before he allegedly went off on his shooting rampage in Tucson, Jared Loughner listed some of his favorite books on his YouTube page. These included: ?Animal Farm,? ?Brave New World,? ?Alice in Wonderland,? ?One Flew Over the Cuckoo?s Nest,? ?Through the Looking Glass? and ?The Communist Manifesto.? Many of these books share a common theme: individuals trying to control their own thoughts and government or some other force trying to take that control away.

Loughner also made a series of videos. These, too, suggest that he was struggling to control his own mind. Just before his killing spree, Loughner made one called ?My Final Thoughts.? In it he writes about different levels of consciousness and dreaming. He tries to build a rigid structure to organize his thinking. He uses the word ?currency? as a metaphor for an inner language to make sense of the world.
?You create and distribute your new currency, listener?? the video asks. ?You don?t allow the government to control your grammar structure, listener??

All of this evidence, which is easily accessible on the Internet, points to the possibility that Loughner may be suffering from a mental illness like schizophrenia. The vast majority of schizophrenics are not violent, and those that receive treatment are not violent. But as Dr. E. Fuller Torrey, a research psychiatrist, writes in his book, ?The Insanity Offense,? about 1 percent of the seriously mentally ill (or about 40,000 individuals) are violent. They account for about half the rampage murders in the United States.

Other themes from Loughner?s life fit the rampage-killer profile. He saw himself in world historical terms. He appeared to have a poor sense of his own illness (part of a condition known as anosognosia). He had increasingly frequent run-ins with the police. In short, the evidence before us suggests that Loughner was locked in a world far removed from politics as we normally understand it.

Yet the early coverage and commentary of the Tucson massacre suppressed this evidence. The coverage and commentary shifted to an entirely different explanation: Loughner unleashed his rampage because he was incited by the violent rhetoric of the Tea Party, the anti-immigrant movement and Sarah Palin.

Mainstream news organizations linked the attack to an offensive target map issued by Sarah Palin?s political action committee. The Huffington Post erupted, with former Senator Gary Hart flatly stating that the killings were the result of angry political rhetoric. Keith Olbermann demanded a Palin repudiation and the founder of the Daily Kos wrote on Twitter: ?Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin.? Others argued that the killing was fostered by a political climate of hate.

These accusations ? that political actors contributed to the murder of 6 people, including a 9-year-old girl ? are extremely grave. They were made despite the fact that there was, and is, no evidence that Loughner was part of these movements or a consumer of their literature. They were made despite the fact that the link between political rhetoric and actual violence is extremely murky. They were vicious charges made by people who claimed to be criticizing viciousness.

Yet such is the state of things. We have a news media that is psychologically ill informed but politically inflamed, so it naturally leans toward political explanations. We have a news media with a strong distaste for Sarah Palin and the Tea Party movement, and this seemed like a golden opportunity to tarnish them. We have a segmented news media, so there is nobody in most newsrooms to stand apart from the prevailing assumptions. We have a news media market in which the rewards go to anybody who can stroke the audience?s pleasure buttons.

I have no love for Sarah Palin, and I like to think I?m committed to civil discourse. But the political opportunism occasioned by this tragedy has ranged from the completely irrelevant to the shamelessly irresponsible.

The good news is that there were a few skeptics, even during the height of the mania: Howard Kurtz of The Daily Beast, James Fallows of The Atlantic and Jonathan Chait of The New Republic. The other good news is that the mainstream media usually recovers from its hysterias and tries belatedly to get the story right.

If the evidence continues as it has, the obvious questions are these: How can we more aggressively treat mentally ill people who are becoming increasingly disruptive? How can we prevent them from getting guns? Do we need to make involuntary treatment easier for authorities to invoke?

Torrey?s book describes a nation that has been unable to come up with a humane mental health policy ? one that protects the ill from their own demons and society from their rare but deadly outbursts. The other problem is this: contemporary punditry lives in the world of superficial tactics and interests. It is unprepared when an event opens the door to a deeper realm of disorder, cruelty and horror.
 
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The Sheriff did NOT say that televised pundit's rhetoric directly caused the event.

He blamed "the political climate, anti-government advocates and rhetoric in the news media and political realm" and said that his community had sadly become "an epicenter for anti-government sentiments and radical extremists."

I don't think the Sheriff is wrong - read some of the shooter's posts and he definitely qualifies as "anti-government."

As a police officer you would think he would understand how things like this work. You start by gathering evidence, then decide who's at fault.

I guess the good sherriff and people like him all agree - when it comes to Sarah Palin, Glen Beck and Rush, it's shoot first and ask question later.
 
The Sheriff did not specifically name individuals. He also did not name certain political parties.

What he did do was comment on the latest in a series of violent incidents that was happening in his community and say what he felt was contributing to them.

It was others who decided that certain groups or individuals were responsible.

And while it currently seems that THIS incident was not directly related to specific political rhetoric or people, previous incidents AGAINST THE SAME VICTIMS were.

IMO the Sheriff is a hell of a lot more knowledgeable about the crimes being committed in his area than you are. The fact that this incident may be an anomaly instead of providing even MORE evidence to support his statement does not make him a liar about the conditions in his district.
 
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SB44--may as well give up...Shopper's mind is made up....;-)
 
Fear mongering

Interesting look at another incidence that didn't make much news from Bloggingheads.tv:

First Comes Fear
by Robert Wright

"Americans who wildly depict other Americans as dark conspirators, as the enemy, are in fact increasing the chances, however marginally, that those Americans will be attacked.

In that sense, the emphasis the left is placing on violent rhetoric and imagery is probably misplaced. Sure, calls to violence, explicit or implicit, can have effect. But the more incendiary theme in current discourse is the consignment of Americans to the category of alien, of insidious other. Once Glenn Beck had sufficiently demonized people at the Tides Foundation, actually advocating the violence wasn?t necessary.

By the same token, Palin?s much-discussed cross-hairs map probably isn?t as dangerous as her claim that ?socialists? are trying to create ?death panels.? If you convince enough people that an enemy of the American way is setting up a system that could kill them, the violent hatred will take care of itself."


First Comes Fear - NYTimes.com


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Great article!

"My own view is that if you decide to go kill a bunch of innocent people, it?s a pretty safe bet that you?re not a picture of mental health. But that doesn?t sever the link between you and the people who inspired you, or insulate them from responsibility. Glenn Beck knows that there are lots of unbalanced people out there, and that his message reaches some of them.

This doesn?t make him morally culpable for the way these people react to things he says that are true. It doesn?t even make him responsible for the things he says that are false but that he sincerely believes are true. But it does make him responsible for things he says that are false and concocted to mislead gullible people.

I guess it?s possible that Beck actually believes his hyper-theatrically delivered nonsense. (And I guess it?s possible that professional wrestling isn?t fake.) But in that case the responsibility just moves to Roger Ailes, head of Fox News, and Rupert Murdoch, its owner. Why are they giving a megaphone to someone who believes crazy stuff?

The magic formula of Palin and Beck ? fear sells ? knows no ideology. When Jon Stewart closed his Washington ?rally to restore sanity? with a video montage of fear mongers, he commendably included some on the left ? notably the sometimes over-the-top Keith Olbermann. The heads of MSNBC have just as much of an obligation to help keep America sane as the heads of Fox News have.

To be sure, at this political moment there is ? by my left-wing lights, at least ? more crazy fear-mongering and demonization on the right than on the left. But that asymmetry is transient.

What?s not transient, unfortunately, is the technological trend that drives much of this. It isn?t just that people can now build a cocoon of cable channels and Web sites that insulates them from inconvenient facts. It?s also that this cocoon insulates them from other Americans ? including the groups of Americans who, inside the cocoon, are being depicted as evil aliens. It?s easy to buy into the demonization of people you never communicate with, and whose views you never see depicted by anyone other than their adversaries."
 
To be sure, at this political moment there is ? by my left-wing lights, at least ? more crazy fear-mongering and demonization on the right than on the left. But that asymmetry is transient.

I think that depends on who is President.

I will say I might not agree with all of the politics of President Obama, but then I rarely agreed with Bush either, but President Obama did the nation proud with his speech last night at the memorial. :clap:
 
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