A sad day for America

[Arkiehawg]

When your generation is paying for this I hope you remember that many of my generation tried to stop this. Just like my Grandparent's generation scr**** us with Social Security and my parents scr**** us with Medicare, so we get you with this.

Melodrama off

Right......and I'm sure that you will not participate in the SS or Mcare because of your principles.....

Good. More for the rest of us.....

 

[Bob]

it's the end of the world. people will receive medical care. emergency rooms will be empty.

 

[AndrewG]

I'm archiving this thread. Four years to the day from now I'll repost it so we can debate.

Has the debt been lowered by Healthcare?
Are millions more people surviving because they are finally getting healthcare? Is healthcare better now than it was before?
How is the gov't takeover of student loans working out?
Was there a voter backlash?

It's like a time capsule. Good stuff. Add your posts. End of day I will copy.

 

[Matt J]

I'm archiving this thread. Four years to the day from now I'll repost it so we can debate.

Has the debt been lowered by Healthcare?
Are millions more people surviving because they are finally getting healthcare? Is healthcare better now than it was before?
How is the gov't takeover of student loans working out?
Was there a voter backlash?

It's like a time capsule. Good stuff. Add your posts. End of day I will copy.

Not 24 hours, the ink hasn't even dried, and already the haters are complaining that nothings happening. Despite what your heros Beck and Limbaugh have said you weren't going to get a card in the mail today since it passed last night.

 

[Shockleysprings]

If everyone was as involved in politics as they are in these blogs our country would be a much better place!

 

[AndrewG]

SWGB I expected you to understand those questions are for four years from now, not today.

 

[scooterbug44]

If everyone was as involved in politics as they are in these blogs our country would be a much better place!

Seriously!

And if they spend a fraction of the time on actually RESEARCHING AND LEARNING about the issues that they do on repeating sound bites our country would be far better off!

 

[idlewind]

Right......and I'm sure that you will not participate in the SS or Mcare because of your principles.....

Good. More for the rest of us.....

Cold economic facts:

1. Social Security is going broke, this year it paid out more than it took in for the first time since the 80's. The situation is even worse when you factor in that the "trust fund's" only assets are US treasury bonds. So as the trend of payouts exceeding income continues the deficit will rise.
2. Medicare is in even worse fiscal shape than Social Security.

3. I have paid taxes for both SS and Medicare for years so if it is still available 20 years from now when I am elligible, i will get everything I can back.

4. This bill is about as fiscally sound as SS and Medicare. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

This has nothing to do with partisan politics and everything to do with economics and fiscal responsibility.

 

[AndrewG]

Who cares wealth redistribution is the goal regardless of the consequences.

 

[Matt J]

Cold economic facts:

1. Social Security is going broke, this year it paid out more than it took in for the first time since the 80's. The situation is even worse when you factor in that the "trust fund's" only assets are US treasury bonds. So as the trend of payouts exceeding income continues the deficit will rise.
2. Medicare is in even worse fiscal shape than Social Security.

3. I have paid taxes for both SS and Medicare for years so if it is still available 20 years from now when I am elligible, i will get everything I can back.

4. This bill is about as fiscally sound as SS and Medicare. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

This has nothing to do with partisan politics and everything to do with economics and fiscal responsibility.

So then lets solve the problem where it started, Congress borrowing money from the trust fund. Perhaps if we put that money back?

Who cares wealth redistribution is the goal regardless of the consequences.

Oh no you broke the secret liberal agenda code. That's it guys, pack it in, and walk away he figured out the big plan to redistribute wealth with 2 cent aspirins.