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Anti-war groups fizzle under Obama
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Bob
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that is so deeeeep
Geo
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I wish Obama would have pulled out of Afghanistan. But instead he did exactly what he said he was going to do prior to getting elected. He pulled troops out of Iraq and escalated the fight in Afghanistan.
My favorite talking point in this thread is when someone said the world respected Bush unlike Obama.
Hahahahahahahahaha
My favorite talking point in this thread is when someone said the world respected Bush unlike Obama.
Hahahahahahahahaha
AndrewG
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Our troops weren't pulled out of Iraq. They have simply been given new titles. I still have family serving there. Do you really think our boys are out or are you saying he just reduced the numbers some and shifted them to Afghanistan?
You do know our troops are still getting killed there right?
As far as respect around the World here's an article out yesterday
Obama will go down in history as the president who lost Egypt - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
Comparing Obama to Carter
"The superficial circumstances are similar. In both cases, a United States in financial crisis and after failed wars loses global influence under a leftist president whose good intentions are interpreted abroad as expressions of weakness. The results are reflected in the fall of regimes that were dependent on their relationship with Washington for survival, or in a change in their orientation, as with Ankara."
Cal Thomas - Obama being seen as weak on the international stage
"Terrorists in waiting mostly remained in the shadows during the Bush administration but now think they can meet openly to plot the downfall of the United States."
"There is nothing worse for the world than to have a president of the United States who is perceived as weak. Weakness can result in the deaths of innocent people, a wrecked economy and new attacks on American allies and interests around the world. This perception of weakness may be contributing to the drop in Obama's approval ratings."
The Telegraph
The UN loves Barack Obama because he is weak - Telegraph
Throw in his capitulation on START to the Russians, his failed G8 Summit, his bowing, apologizing to everyone and soon the attempt at good will has the opposite result. No laughing matter imo.
You do know our troops are still getting killed there right?
As far as respect around the World here's an article out yesterday
Obama will go down in history as the president who lost Egypt - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
Comparing Obama to Carter
"The superficial circumstances are similar. In both cases, a United States in financial crisis and after failed wars loses global influence under a leftist president whose good intentions are interpreted abroad as expressions of weakness. The results are reflected in the fall of regimes that were dependent on their relationship with Washington for survival, or in a change in their orientation, as with Ankara."
Cal Thomas - Obama being seen as weak on the international stage
"Terrorists in waiting mostly remained in the shadows during the Bush administration but now think they can meet openly to plot the downfall of the United States."
"There is nothing worse for the world than to have a president of the United States who is perceived as weak. Weakness can result in the deaths of innocent people, a wrecked economy and new attacks on American allies and interests around the world. This perception of weakness may be contributing to the drop in Obama's approval ratings."
The Telegraph
The UN loves Barack Obama because he is weak - Telegraph
Throw in his capitulation on START to the Russians, his failed G8 Summit, his bowing, apologizing to everyone and soon the attempt at good will has the opposite result. No laughing matter imo.
Geo
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Cite all the op ed pieces you want. But if you believe Bush is more respected around the world than Obama then I have some property for you to buy in South Walton.
Disagree with Obama's policy. Dislike the guy. But seriously dude- you sound silly when you cite a lack of intelligence or respect in the world as his shortcomings. Just sayin'.
Here is a post of mine from an Iraq thread from last year. We agree on the troops continuing role there. My point in this thread here and now is that Obama has pretty much done what he said he was going to do with respect to these two wars.
Disagree with Obama's policy. Dislike the guy. But seriously dude- you sound silly when you cite a lack of intelligence or respect in the world as his shortcomings. Just sayin'.
Here is a post of mine from an Iraq thread from last year. We agree on the troops continuing role there. My point in this thread here and now is that Obama has pretty much done what he said he was going to do with respect to these two wars.
AndrewG
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Replace the word respect with weak and see if it fits. I think we're comparing different things but I do believe that weakness leads to a lack of respect. Of course those taking advantage of it will always deny it. This is the same reason he received the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing other than getting elected.
Geo
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What metric are you using to conclude that Obama is weak and Bush is strong?
If you are using the number of times the President uses the phrase "War on Terra" then I would agree that Obama is weak. But if you are using the number of Al Queda operatives being killed in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region I'd say he is pretty strong.
If you are using the number of times the President uses the phrase "War on Terra" then I would agree that Obama is weak. But if you are using the number of Al Queda operatives being killed in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region I'd say he is pretty strong.