Beach renourishment

[greenroomsurfer]

First of all this must be an important thread! This thread wasn't about sand movement, (the sand bypass bill will stop all dredging anyways) it's about re nourished beaches we payed for that people are calling private. Show me a graph for that Mr Sio, ha ha! By the way all you Surfrider folks we will be having a fund raiser at spinnaker with free surf movie night I'll post details later.

 

[Smiling JOe]

You got me thinking. If the beach is elevated and widened, and we get a storm, taking the sand back down to present width and height, people will still be forced to sit in the wet sand on then non-publicly deeded beach. Isn't that as much or more a tourist/economic problem than placing more sand on the beach?

 

[BeachSiO2]

First of all this must be an important thread! This thread wasn't about sand movement, (the sand bypass bill will stop all dredging anyways) it's about re nourished beaches we payed for that people are calling private. Show me a graph for that Mr Sio, ha ha! By the way all you Surfrider folks we will be having a fund raiser at spinnaker with free surf movie night I'll post details later.

You got me thinking. If the beach is elevated and widened, and we get a storm, taking the sand back down to present width and height, people will still be forced to sit in the wet sand on then non-publicly deeded beach. Isn't that as much or more a tourist/economic problem than placing more sand on the beach?

Like I said from the outset, my purpose was to offer technical and scientific answers regarding design and design philosophy for beach restoration projects. I believe both of you have raised points that are valid and fall within the policy side of beach restoration projects so make sure your policy makers know how you feel about them.

As for all dredging being stopped, I seriously doubt it. Actually, its impossible since many of the nations ports would close up due siltation. The federal funding goes back to the Rivers and Harbors Act of the early 1920's and it would be devastating to national security and commerce if there was "no dredging." That being said, there is always the possibility that there may be a loss of state funding but I don't believe there will ever be a complete stop to projects.

 

[Smiling JOe]

I appreciate your take on the technical and scientific matters of restoration.

 

[greenroomsurfer]

Read this then go to the link at the bottom of the page for the actual Bill. Somebody needs to tell Miss Kitty that Geo Tubes are outlawed!
Surfrider Campaign in Florida Wins Big!

Governor Crist Signs Comprehensive Beach Preservation Bill
Tallahassee, FL (June 13, 2007) ? Florida Governor Charlie Crist has put pen to paper and enacted sweeping beach management legislation benefiting beachgoers and coastal wildlife. In so doing, the Surfrider Foundation?s ten Florida chapters have achieved a major milestone in their mission to promote the right of open access to Florida's waves and beaches for all people, as well as preserving the diversity and ecological integrity of Florida?s coastal environment

After months of tireless effort, in which the Surfrider Foundation helped guide Senate Bill 1472 to unanimous passage through both the Florida House and Senate, Governor Crist has given beachgoers a reason to celebrate. Governor Crist has recognized the need to preserve the public?s right to access the beach and protect beach users and sea turtles from the harmful affects caused by an experimental form of coastal armoring. Florida now joins the ranks of Texas and Oregon with an adequate beach access protection policy.

?We are delighted to finally see the full protection of beach access,? said Ericka D?Avanzo, Florida Regional Manager of the Surfrider Foundation. ?Now recreational beach users can be assured that as growth continues along our coastline, we should not see any future loss of ocean access points.? This was accomplished through a clarification of Florida Statue Chapter 161, clarifying that the Florida Department of Environmental Protection protect all legally acquired beach access in their Coastal Construction Control Line permitting process.

TJ Marshall, Surfrider Foundation?s Florida Legislative Coordinator, said, ?I?m stoked to see the efforts of our Florida members and so many other organizations provide substantial protection to Florida?s beaches, being part of this was like getting barreled on a perfect wave. It was also heartening to see legislators standing up unanimously for the major components of this bill, especially the additional permitting requirements regarding geotextile tubes in order to protect sea turtles and Florida?s fragile beach and dune system.?
Governor Crist?s signing of Senate Bill 1472 validates the tremendous efforts of Senators Dennis Jones and Burt Saunders along with Representatives Stan Mayfield and Bob Allen. Their dedication and vision for Florida?s coastal future have been realized. Legislation language can be found at here.

 

[scooterbug44]

Great news - since the link is 9 pages, can you paraphrase for us please!

 

[TheSheep]

So what is one to do? Eh? Swim upstream against the potential, unrealized desires of Mother Nature? Lax back, assume that the sky will fall even if it is not at this moment?

Do we throw away our capabilities to restore? Or use those dollars to other means?

Having fought this fought on Cape San Blas, restoration underway, results not yet determined to time

http://www.savethecape.com/

I found it to be intolerable to refuse the fought.

 

[DuneLaker]

I've seen tons of sand blown into Eastern Lake from the west side over the years and natural sand from the east side. The County dumped and dredged sand certainly did not help the lake. Glad that has stopped, at least for now. I appreciate every day I can walk on the beach on real naturally placed sand and not processed and sculpted renourished sand. It just feels icky to me. Finding places that weren't bubbified with a lot of scraping is a challenge in some places. Until the public beach access issue is resolved, publicly funded renourishment and scraping should stop. Maybe the high price of gas will stop those tractors on the beach in their tracks.

 

[beacheart]

As I have stated before I am in favor of beach renourishment. I really need an answer to a question about public access and private beach that seems to be a part of the renourishment issue. I am not understanding exactly what public beach entails? What apart from the public and deeded beach accesses is needed or desired? I do understand about the public being protected from developers totally eliminating people's access to the beach by building wall to wall condos and hotels. That there needs to be access in the new areas of development. As far as I can tell along 30-A there are many public and deeded beach accesses. How is the public today not being respected?

 

[Matt J]

So what is one to do? Eh? Swim upstream against the potential, unrealized desires of Mother Nature? Lax back, assume that the sky will fall even if it is not at this moment?

Do we throw away our capabilities to restore? Or use those dollars to other means?

Having fought this fought on Cape San Blas, restoration underway, results not yet determined to time

http://www.savethecape.com/

I found it to be intolerable to refuse the fought.

Are you saying this is a good idea?

Cape San Blas is a barrier island. If you're not familiar with what a barrier island is or its natural purpose please do some research. 50 years ago I can understand building on them, but with the current knowledge of what they are and how they act it is futile to try and rebuild a barrier island.