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College Kid Grades Make Me Steam!

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Mermaid said:
I need to hear from those of you with college age kids. I need some encouragement. My son's grades came today and he flunked two courses! One of them was chemistry, about which I am most sympathetic since I did the same in my college days, :roll: but the other was programming, which should have been a no-brainer for the boy.

Is this normal? Did your kids have a rough time their 1st semester in college? Is there hope for the Mer-boy? He's a bright kid so that's not the problem, and he likes his college well enough.

Is it the adjustment to college life that contributed to these loser grades? So maybe it's a one-shot 1st semester only kind of wipeout? (Please please)

And another thing--what is all this business about it taking 5 years to get a bachelor's degree? I did mine in four. So did all my friends. But now they seem to want kids to stay for 5? Is this a new trend?

Those are hard courses. What is his major? I completed two bachelor's degrees in five years--history and political science. Almost everyone I know went for five years, so it seems that it is a new trend with new and increasingly strange requirements for core curriculums. I made my lowest grades my first semester and so did everyone I know. For me it WAS the change and adjustment to a new and exciting and sometimes scary environment. I wouldn't worry, but as I am sure you already do, keep encouraging him--that did it for me.
 
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Cap'nCrazy said:
... my Sophomore year, I was struggling just to get C's, and had my share of D's, and one F after 10/100 on the final exam (I fell asleep and only completed one question out of ten....I got that one right. All this after a party weekend). ...

Cap'n, I understand how difficult the Naval Academy can be. A very good friend of mine attended the School and played football briefly, before moving to the Rugby team. He never had time to study, much less eat or sleep. His mom was always sending him little pen-sized flash lights so that he could pull the covers over his head and study after lights out. He was an A student, but he worked his booty off to keep the grades. With all the craziness that they put the students through, I am surprised anyone can excel in the classroom.
 
Mermaid...Mr. Kitty showed me where the library was at SMU after we started dating!!! My grades improved dramatically! I guess a college girlfriend is out of the question?

I agree with Cap...the fellows we know that blew their first semesters were not going to class and late with turned in work. Just another life lesson....you might have him "pay" you back for those courses and when he passes them...return the money! This too shall pass (and so will Merboy!).
 
Show him this thread and everyone's posts-he will see that useful advice actually passes through here. Wish I had read them all before going to college!

Once I figured out class attendance meant less study time on the outside, I was fine. Attend every class, pay attention while you are there, and you won't have study AND play catchup.
 
I agree about showing him the thread. I esp like SJ's and Cap'n's advice.
The first year can be the easiest or the worst, depending on the student and the major.

Our older son messed around all through high school. He didn't especially like being told what to do. When he went off to college, nobody was hanging over him; he was accountable mostly to himself. This was the motivation he needed and wanted. His grades went up dramatically and stayed that way; he finished two degrees (French and International Relations) in 3 and a half years.

Is Alex happy with his major? That can make a difference.
 
Ohhhh Mermaid, do I feel for you! I have almost started a thread like this for my own son. I've read with interest and hope for your son, and gleaned the helpful advice from our insightful Posters.

My son is 15 and a Fresh. in highschool. In general, he makes good grades without doing any studying or any homework. I've never seen him do more than 15-20 min. at the very longest, sometimes, none at all. He's able to get most of it done in class or in his seminar time. He's teachers all say he is by far one of the most engaged students in their class. We were told right before break by his counselor that he is "highly skilled." His teachers all say he could easily be taking all AP classes but they can't reccommend him with C's. (He makes A's in music/orchestra.)
This habit has been going on for the previous 2 years. We've grounded him, talked and encouraged him, screamed and cried, had conferences, etc. His teahcers all say that he is very talented, very well liked, and a natural leader. But NO ONE understands why he's sabotaging his future & is lazy. It just breaks our hearts. We are certainly not counting on any scholarships.

Anyway, I'm not looking for any additional info here - - it's all been great. I just feel for you, Mermaid ~
 
Smiling JOe said:
Cap'n, I understand how difficult the Naval Academy can be. A very good friend of mine attended the School and played football briefly, before moving to the Rugby team. He never had time to study, much less eat or sleep. His mom was always sending him little pen-sized flash lights so that he could pull the covers over his head and study after lights out. He was an A student, but he worked his booty off to keep the grades. With all the craziness that they put the students through, I am surprised anyone can excel in the classroom.

Sounds like he and I had similar experiences. I played football also, and then played Rugby. You guessed it! I was "Cap'n" of the Rugby Team my Senior year, and we won the East Coast Championships. Great stuff!!
 
You are definetly in good company here. We went through this with both our kids. Great advice from everyone. Staying supportive is very important! GTTBD and our son had a very rough 4 years during the college experience. Things are so much better now that we are all on this end of the road. We apparently got a lot smarter over the last few years as both kids call every day for advice.

I'll bet next semester will be a huge improvement over this one!
 
Thank you thank you thank you. I'm much less steamed now at the boy. I DID show him this thread (before it was even suggested; hey! great minds all think alike). I think he gets the idea that there might, just might, be light at the end of the tunnel. As in, he DOESN'T necessarily have to consider these two flunked courses as the pattern college is going to make for him.

The mother hen in me is still a little worried that his intentions might be good but...

Alex does have a wonderful girlfriend who sounds a lot like Gypsea! She's a year behind him, a senior in High School. They've been going together for almost a year now. She's just been accepted to Purdue University. :clap_1: All of a sudden Alex wants to transfer, and it's slowly dawning on him that he needs the grades (well duh) to do it. We shall see. We shall see.
 
Don't get me started. Hits too close to home, both as a parent and a professor.

In one class I gave most of the class D's and F's. The exam was open-book, open-notes. I uploaded all test and homework solutions to the class website. All I did was take the old tests and change the numbers. If they're too stupid to do well under those conditions, they need to be flipping burgers. I couldn't believe how many D's and F's I gave in all of my classes this semester. The registrar told me that it wasn't just me - he was amazed at how bad the grade rosters were from all professors.

Just walking through my daughter's sorority house makes it clear to me why many students do poorly. Their rooms are total chaos, a toxic waste dump of dirty clothes on the floor, half-eaten food everywhere, partially-drunk Diet Coke cans everywhere, no evidence of any time management skills or organization. Their moms aren't there to keep things in order, so they now live in a cesspool because many of us spoiled them too much when they lived at home. They stay up too late and then sleep as late as possible, so they're tired after class and take naps. They don't eat healthily. Again, this is just from my observations of girls at the sorority house and from overhearing their conversations. It's difficult to do well under these conditions.

I was bemoaning this topic with my doctor (and friend) - both he and his wife are Duke grads and high achievers. He says that he is disgusted with his kids. He blames himself for spoiling them, but he thought he was doing the right thing, using the mentality that they shouldn't have to struggle as hard as he did. But now in retrospect, he thinks that they feel entitled to all of the benefits of college (like a degree) without doing the work, so he regrets making life so easy for them. But obviously it's too late.
 
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