SoWalProfire
Beach Lover
SJ,
SWPFFA has not made a choice on that race.
SWPFFA has not made a choice on that race.
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Firefighters? Anyone?
- Thread starter rapunzel
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The Watcher
Beach Fanatic
pass the milk please...
For those of you wondering, this is what I was talking about in regards to spilled milk. It does not end.
'nuff said.
For those of you wondering, this is what I was talking about in regards to spilled milk. It does not end.
'nuff said.
SoWalProfire
Beach Lover
Strictly out of curiosity, (you killed any confidence i had in your objective credibility long ago) according to my posts so far, what do you see as the "wants and desires" of the Firefighters of South Walton County?
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Andy A
Beach Fanatic
That is exactly my point when I said earlier that everyone should be provided a questionaire. I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth nor do I impart a partisan spin to any of your endorsements. You have only "picked" the people in races that have an implied impact on your organization's interests. IMO, your endorsements are worthless as they do not apply to all races. Tell us who you support for ALL local races, not just the ones regarding the Firefighter's union. IMO, you are very remiss in endorsing only a part of the local races. Sorry if that upsets you.Man, when you don't read things that please you here, you sure are fast to put words in someones mouth in order to support your partisan spin aren't you?
You work it man, (I'm sure no one will notice but me)
Non of those folks asked for our endorsement.
SoWalProfire
Beach Lover
If you think I am upset you really don't know me. :funn:I am not. I think your candor is a bit humorous.
I am not here to tell you who I pick in any race. I have already told you who SWPFFA picked and the reasons why. I believe that is what this thread is about. Right??
My personal choices for any other race are frankly, none of your business.
SoWalProfire
Beach Lover
Every incident that a firefighter responds to is complex but, our actions are based on two very simple and easy to understand mandates, and I list them here in order of priority:
1. Save your life.
2 Save your property.
We base our decision to endorse any candidate mostly on questions which, once answered, indicate the candidates commitment to helping us fulfill those mandates, whether the questions are answered by action (sitting elected official) or in writing (candidate questionnaire).
The questions center around some key points and though not worded exactly like this I think you will get the drift:
Are you willing to commit the resources to ensure that our staffing levels and equipment will allow us to do the best job that can be done for the citizens.
Are you willing to commit the resources necessary to ensure that we are not a training ground for firefighters to come and learn how to do their jobs correctly, then go to another Florida community in order to be fairly paid .
Do you support our RIGHT to be involved in politics OFF DUTY.
Where do you think our funding should come from.
This is the premise by which we make such decisions. We are not sorry if it displeases you. But we wish for your understanding because it is you we want to protect.
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to post this, Andy.
1. Save your life.
2 Save your property.
We base our decision to endorse any candidate mostly on questions which, once answered, indicate the candidates commitment to helping us fulfill those mandates, whether the questions are answered by action (sitting elected official) or in writing (candidate questionnaire).
The questions center around some key points and though not worded exactly like this I think you will get the drift:
Are you willing to commit the resources to ensure that our staffing levels and equipment will allow us to do the best job that can be done for the citizens.
Are you willing to commit the resources necessary to ensure that we are not a training ground for firefighters to come and learn how to do their jobs correctly, then go to another Florida community in order to be fairly paid .
Do you support our RIGHT to be involved in politics OFF DUTY.
Where do you think our funding should come from.
This is the premise by which we make such decisions. We are not sorry if it displeases you. But we wish for your understanding because it is you we want to protect.
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to post this, Andy.
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If you think I am upset you really don't know me. :funn:I am not. I think your candor is a bit humorous.
I am not here to tell you who I pick in any race. I have already told you who SWPFFA picked and the reasons why. I believe that is what this thread is about. Right??
My personal choices for any other race are frankly, none of your business.
I want to let you know that one citizen (me)
appreciates your group, what you sacrifice to protect us and the courage it takes to speak out as a group on local issues.I may not agree with your stands (then again I may
) but I appreciate your viewpoint and perspective on how local races affect public employees and our fire protection. Frankly, whether you endorse a candidate in one race or every race is your business and your choice is your right.
I also find that the attacks on your right to free speech distress me and cause me to more closely consider your positions than I might have because such attacks "burn me up."
Thanks for all that you do to protect me and my property, I for one appreciate it.
Andy A
Beach Fanatic
Lets get one thing straight right now. I do not have a problem with your submitting a questionaire to candidaates, only with it not being submitted to all fairly and equally. Also, FYI, for 8 years, I helped put together regional EMS systems for the state of Oklahoma, so I am quite familar with the fact that you save lives and save property and I certainly commend you for it. I don't know where you got or perceived the idea I am attacking you. Nothing could be further from the truth! I am a Walton County citizen trying to understand why and how the local firefighter's endorsement for candidates of some very important elections was ascertained and whether it was applied equally to ALL candidates on just certain ones. If my requests, posts, or thoughts are out of line with your position, I'm sorry but so be it.
SoWalProfire
Beach Lover
Your statements above are where I "got or perceived" that you were attacking me.
You imply that we are not fair. You imply that we are not honest. You imply that we are strictly self serving. You imply that we don't care about the citizens of our community by implying that we don't care about any races other than those in which we have backed a candidate.
If I am the only person here who feels that these remarks and implications are an attack or at the very least, inflammatory, then I apologize. However, I suspect that I am not alone and I find it in poor form for you to subsequently suggest that you were trying to be cordial.
If that is the case then I am no more guilty of "simply stating my opinion" than you.
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Andy A
Beach Fanatic
I would say your use of the word "imply" is not necessarily correct. I am not trying to be cordial, only trying to gather facts regarding election of the candidates running for election that apply to ALL citizens of Walton County not just a chosen few. Maybe you should have just made your candidate support known to only your members since it appears to me from reading your questionaire that is to whom it applies. You, by your insinuations and demeanor, have lost any chance of a vote for any of your recommended candidates. I have always heard, "every vote counts". I hope it is so.