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They also talked about how they were taking over the industry, limiting number of choices, drawing up blacklists of farmers, and "contaminating" other fields' seeds.

Didn't think it was pro-GM, just that they chose the most extreme case to make a point.

I know, I'm saying they didn't come across as strongly anti-gmo either. They did not take a strong stance. Put another way, they did not seem to have zero-tolerance for GMO. They definitely took a stance against large corporations, but actually had some good things to say about Wal-Mart.
 
Betz, Hammond, and Fuchs was one of many independent studies. As we can see, some of the other tests are posted on this board.
Jellinek, Schwartz, and Connolly worked for Monsanto.
Beyond Pesticides

The problem I see is the lack of independent study. Seed companies like Monsanto can forbid independent research as a condition of sale of the seed. In other words a signed legal agreement. The law is on the side of the company in this situation, at least according to this article:Do Seed Companies Control GM Crop Research?: Scientific American
 
The problem I see is the lack of independent study. Seed companies like Monsanto can forbid independent research as a condition of sale of the seed. In other words a signed legal agreement. The law is on the side of the company in this situation, at least according to this article:Do Seed Companies Control GM Crop Research?: Scientific American

That's brilliant on the side of Monsanto, I was wondering why all the articles were so old. They already know it's a bad seed and want people to shut up. Of course the law is on their side here, they paid for it, didn't you see the long list of liaisons within the government? Do you actually think they are going to venture out financially without knowing if they are going to make a huge profit or not- I don't think so.
Just think, if their food makes you sick, you can then purchase their pharmaceuticals. They are in a win-win situation. That would put us in a lose-lose situation if we bought the bait.
 
That's brilliant on the side of Monsanto, I was wondering why all the articles were so old. They already know it's a bad seed and want people to shut up. Of course the law is on their side here, they paid for it, didn't you see the long list of liaisons within the government? Do you actually think they are going to venture out financially without knowing if they are going to make a huge profit or not- I don't think so.
Just think, if their food makes you sick, you can then purchase their pharmaceuticals. They are in a win-win situation. That would put us in a lose-lose situation if we bought the bait.

It's better than starvation and alternative medicine.
 
Monsanto

I appreciate a difference of opinion, that is what makes this country great. I think you are greatly misunderstanding the role of this company and what they are trying to do. To say biotech break farmers and make them poor and we force them to buy seeds is crazy talk. First this is a free country and nobody forces anyone to do anything. Farmers like anyone else have more options than ever before. They choose Monsanto's products because they are superior and it makes them more profitable, end of point.

Case in point, Monsanto held pricing on branded Roundup last year, even as generics prices bottomed. Guess what? Nobody bought it, thus Monsanto laid off 2000 workers and cut the price 50%. Man if we would just let the free market do its job, everyones life would be better.

They complain about the pricing because it is something they need not something they want. They cannot make enough money doing it as grandpa did. Yes seed costs are higher but so are yields, productivity, and efficiency and other inputs they would have had to put in are now gone. Not to mention the time it saves. Altough they have that option and no one is forcing them to choose otherwise. As a matter of fact there are more seed companies now than there were 20 years ago. The reason Monsanto is penalized so severly is that they are the leader in biotech arena and while every other company was making fun of them in the 80s and 90s as they almost went broke while investing into biotech, now they are years ahead of the competition.

To someone else's point of GMO seed does not germinate the year after you harvest it. Yes it does. How do you think Monsanto has product to sell the next year, it doesn't just magically appear.

Lastly to the retards that say biotech does not increase yield. I challenge you to call 10 farmers randomly and ask would they rather plant the hybrids that were around 10 years ago. I bet 30 bushels of corn they say no........Next.....
 
Monsanto seeks control over sources of life. First seed, then water,then fish?
Let's hit the fundamentals, I suppose oxygen will be next.
Monsanto Moves to Control Water Resources & Fish Farming in India & the Third World--Vandana Shiva

"Water bully" says Hawaii.
Greenwash: Monsanto? Sustainable? Water bully, I'd say … | Fred Pearce | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Local Hawaiian:

"I read the posts and article with some interest and did notice than none of the people responding appear to live on Molokai. I happen to have a home on the west end on the island and will tell you that water is the number one problem on the island. What most people reading this article probably do not know is that about 7000 people live there. Up until two years ago water was providedon the west end by deep wells run by the Molokai ranch. When they got upset and pulled out, closing all of their operations including the hotel, restaurant, golf course, ranch land there has been no water. The county of Maui refuses to take over the wells. The upshot of the situation is that our water bills have gone up over 100% in the past 18 months with no end in sight. The east end of the island does not seem to have as much of a problem, however, that end is where most of the rain lands so can be collected by the residents. Monsanto does provide some employment, but mostly those are individuals who are not Hawaiian, so the island economy really suffers. As they take much of the water, residents are left to either collect their own rainwater or pay the 100% annual increase in water costs passed off to the residents. Molokai residents have appealed to Maui County as well as the governor of Hawaii to interceed before the water is so expensive that vitually no residents can remain. Water costs combined with the highest electric costs in the US push the residents out of their home. Monsanto certainly contributes to that."

Monsanta or Monsatan?
The different sides of Monsanto speak on.
 
I appreciate a difference of opinion, that is what makes this country great. I think you are greatly misunderstanding the role of this company and what they are trying to do. To say biotech break farmers and make them poor and we force them to buy seeds is crazy talk. First this is a free country and nobody forces anyone to do anything. Farmers like anyone else have more options than ever before. They choose Monsanto's products because they are superior and it makes them more profitable, end of point.

Case in point, Monsanto held pricing on branded Roundup last year, even as generics prices bottomed. Guess what? Nobody bought it, thus Monsanto laid off 2000 workers and cut the price 50%. Man if we would just let the free market do its job, everyones life would be better.

They complain about the pricing because it is something they need not something they want. They cannot make enough money doing it as grandpa did. Yes seed costs are higher but so are yields, productivity, and efficiency and other inputs they would have had to put in are now gone. Not to mention the time it saves. Altough they have that option and no one is forcing them to choose otherwise. As a matter of fact there are more seed companies now than there were 20 years ago. The reason Monsanto is penalized so severly is that they are the leader in biotech arena and while every other company was making fun of them in the 80s and 90s as they almost went broke while investing into biotech, now they are years ahead of the competition.

To someone else's point of GMO seed does not germinate the year after you harvest it. Yes it does. How do you think Monsanto has product to sell the next year, it doesn't just magically appear.

Lastly to the retards that say biotech does not increase yield. I challenge you to call 10 farmers randomly and ask would they rather plant the hybrids that were around 10 years ago. I bet 30 bushels of corn they say no........Next.....

I think that's why Food Inc. had the good sense not to really come down really hard on bio-tech. It's ubiquitous in agriculture. How do you present farmers as victims fighting the evil empire if their alleged patent violations involve a product that's immoral for them to use in the first place?
 
I appreciate a difference of opinion, that is what makes this country great. I think you are greatly misunderstanding the role of this company and what they are trying to do. To say biotech break farmers and make them poor and we force them to buy seeds is crazy talk. First this is a free country and nobody forces anyone to do anything. Farmers like anyone else have more options than ever before. They choose Monsanto's products because they are superior and it makes them more profitable, end of point.

They're not free when they refuse to purchase the seeds and consequently Monsanto throws a hand full of seeds on to their fields for the sole purpose of taking them to court. Oddly when research institutions such as the University of Florida or FAMU develop a new disease resistant strain of something it is offered openly and freely.
 
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