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Property taxes and the HCP

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lazin&drinkin

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It is likely that at an upcoming County Commission meeting on July 13 the Commissioners will vote to increase the millage rate from the present level of about 3.5 to a proposed 4.2 or so. Given the vagaries of the property tax options available to the Commission, it is quite likely that our property taxes in S. Walton will be increasing unless we can persuade at least one commissioner to vote against this, assuming that two are already disposed to vote against an increase.

Please bear in mind that while FL law limits property valuation increases to 3% and 10% annually for residents and non-residents respectively, those limits are not in place for the actual amount of taxes assessed, and even those limits can be exceeded by supermajority vote of the Commission. Do not be deceived if you hear that the plan is to vote for a roll-back rate. If you were to think that implied a reduction in taxes, you'd be wrong; it would be an increase for most.

That being said, it is important that as many owners as possible both contact your Commissioners as well as show up in person at the County Commission meetings to publicly oppose an increase during the public comment period.

In it's search for savings, the county is looking at and quite likely to implement a plan to open a county-sponsored doc in a box in DeFuniak Springs for county employees and their families. This will require an initial capital outlay of over 2/3 of a million bucks by the county. BCBS is contemplating a contribution toward that, but they have made no commitment. The clinic would be absolutely free for county employees and their families, and all drugs on their formulary, 1200 or so, would also be free. The doctor would work 20 hours a week to start though that could increase with demand. As a taxpayer and not a county employee or dependent, you're stuck with the bill for them and for your own family.

The companies of course promise cost savings. Employees and their families would be encouraged to use the facility but not required to. Suffice it that experience might suggest that county government would convert this into an expensive undertaking, not to mention that one may anticipate an unlimited demand for almost anything perceived as free. Your tax rates are at risk here. Putative savings prominently mentioned include reduction of gratuitous visits to the ER for routine, non-emergent matters, a huge cost-driver, but the clinic will not address this in the least. It's to be a M-F regular business hours operation only.

I was among a small number who attended the public meeting with District 7 State Rep Marti Coley last night. Discussed in the Q&A with Rep. Coley was the Habitat Conservation Plan. For the uninitiated, whose number in this regard included me until this afternoon, the HCP is a proposed agreement among Walton County, The FL Dept of Environmental Protection and the U.S. Game and Wildlife Commission or some similar agency, which agreement, I'm told, provides that in perpetuity, Walton County will pay the state and the feds a sum in excess of $10 million per year, which sum will be raised by the county by levying a tax on every lineal foot of beachfront property in the county, a tax in the approximate amount of $235 a foot per year.

This is a current matter before the County Commission which appears headed for approval. Given that there are about 20 miles of privately owned beach in the county, the sum raised would be about $25 million per year. If the numbers provided me by the gentleman with a copy of the HCP in his hands are accurate, it seems the county is raising 2.5 times the putative fine.

A bit of history might be helpful here. In 2005 after Hurricane Dennis, a number of homes on the beach in South Walton County were effectively being taken over by the Gulf, leading a small number (8 or 9, I'm told) of homeowners to seek permits for seawalls. While I'm a bit puzzled about TEMPORARY permits, they ultimately got TEMPORARY permits from the county and proceeded to build seawalls. I'm told that the company building the seawalls was owned by a County Commissioner of the time. When they later sought permission to cover the seawalls with sand, permission was refused.

Since the seawalls might, in the view of the conservationists, negatively impinge nesting sea turtles, all 9 of them in this county, a firestorm of sorts has ensued. The FL Dept of Environmental Protection and the big boys and girls in the related federal agencies were offended that the county had presented them with a fait accompli which contravened their core beliefs, which offense has occasioned our punishment by among other things the looming Turtle Light Ordinance, and now the HCP.

Facilitating a quandary, the state has implemented a regulation which effectively provides a 1 year moratorium during which no actions may be taken by any parties with respect to seawalls and which moratorium is currently in effect. Since the affected individuals may not tear down their seawalls (which is not to suggest that they wish to, but rather to indicate that the county and the state are powerless to demand such for now), the state and the feds are in effect fining the county for its sin of granting these temporary permits in the first place.

The County, in its infinite wisdom, intends to effectively fine all the other owners of beachfront property in the county forever to fund attoning for its sins in this matter. Ergo, all of us on the beach are paying for the County's mistake occasioned by 8 or 9 owners down the beach. Notably absent in paying for the County's mistake are the other taxpayers of the county who, by the way, sinned no more than did all the folks on the beach.

If you care enough to read this, please care enough to protest by phone, personal contact, and by showing up at BCC meetings to personally and publicly protest these taxes and this proposed agreement. While I have no animus toward County employees and have been favorably impressed by most whom I've met, I do not believe their employment by the County should shield them from the same storms which assault the rest of us in these difficult times. Many in the private sector have lost their jobs, their pensions, their health insurance. Others have absorbed decreases in pay. Equity suggests if not demands that public employees suffer along with the rest of us rather than be shielded by the power of the County to confiscate the money of private citizens via taxation without limit.
 
It is likely that at an upcoming County Commission meeting on July 13 the Commissioners will vote to increase the millage rate from the present level of about 3.5 to a proposed 4.2 or so. Given the vagaries of the property tax options available to the Commission, it is quite likely that our property taxes in S. Walton will be increasing unless we can persuade at least one commissioner to vote against this, assuming that two are already disposed to vote against an increase.

Please bear in mind that while FL law limits property valuation increases to 3% and 10% annually for residents and non-residents respectively, those limits are not in place for the actual amount of taxes assessed, and even those limits can be exceeded by supermajority vote of the Commission. Do not be deceived if you hear that the plan is to vote for a roll-back rate. If you were to think that implied a reduction in taxes, you'd be wrong; it would be an increase for most.

That being said, it is important that as many owners as possible both contact your Commissioners as well as show up in person at the County Commission meetings to publicly oppose an increase during the public comment period.

In it's search for savings, the county is looking at and quite likely to implement a plan to open a county-sponsored doc in a box in DeFuniak Springs for county employees and their families. This will require an initial capital outlay of over 2/3 of a million bucks by the county. BCBS is contemplating a contribution toward that, but they have made no commitment. The clinic would be absolutely free for county employees and their families, and all drugs on their formulary, 1200 or so, would also be free. The doctor would work 20 hours a week to start though that could increase with demand. As a taxpayer and not a county employee or dependent, you're stuck with the bill for them and for your own family.

The companies of course promise cost savings. Employees and their families would be encouraged to use the facility but not required to. Suffice it that experience might suggest that county government would convert this into an expensive undertaking, not to mention that one may anticipate an unlimited demand for almost anything perceived as free. Your tax rates are at risk here. Putative savings prominently mentioned include reduction of gratuitous visits to the ER for routine, non-emergent matters, a huge cost-driver, but the clinic will not address this in the least. It's to be a M-F regular business hours operation only.

I was among a small number who attended the public meeting with District 7 State Rep Marti Coley last night. Discussed in the Q&A with Rep. Coley was the Habitat Conservation Plan. For the uninitiated, whose number in this regard included me until this afternoon, the HCP is a proposed agreement among Walton County, The FL Dept of Environmental Protection and the U.S. Game and Wildlife Commission or some similar agency, which agreement, I'm told, provides that in perpetuity, Walton County will pay the state and the feds a sum in excess of $10 million per year, which sum will be raised by the county by levying a tax on every lineal foot of beachfront property in the county, a tax in the approximate amount of $235 a foot per year.

This is a current matter before the County Commission which appears headed for approval. Given that there are about 20 miles of privately owned beach in the county, the sum raised would be about $25 million per year. If the numbers provided me by the gentleman with a copy of the HCP in his hands are accurate, it seems the county is raising 2.5 times the putative fine.

A bit of history might be helpful here. In 2005 after Hurricane Dennis, a number of homes on the beach in South Walton County were effectively being taken over by the Gulf, leading a small number (8 or 9, I'm told) of homeowners to seek permits for seawalls. While I'm a bit puzzled about TEMPORARY permits, they ultimately got TEMPORARY permits from the county and proceeded to build seawalls. I'm told that the company building the seawalls was owned by a County Commissioner of the time. When they later sought permission to cover the seawalls with sand, permission was refused.

Since the seawalls might, in the view of the conservationists, negatively impinge nesting sea turtles, all 9 of them in this county, a firestorm of sorts has ensued. The FL Dept of Environmental Protection and the big boys and girls in the related federal agencies were offended that the county had presented them with a fait accompli which contravened their core beliefs, which offense has occasioned our punishment by among other things the looming Turtle Light Ordinance, and now the HCP.

Facilitating a quandary, the state has implemented a regulation which effectively provides a 1 year moratorium during which no actions may be taken by any parties with respect to seawalls and which moratorium is currently in effect. Since the affected individuals may not tear down their seawalls (which is not to suggest that they wish to, but rather to indicate that the county and the state are powerless to demand such for now), the state and the feds are in effect fining the county for its sin of granting these temporary permits in the first place.

The County, in its infinite wisdom, intends to effectively fine all the other owners of beachfront property in the county forever to fund attoning for its sins in this matter. Ergo, all of us on the beach are paying for the County's mistake occasioned by 8 or 9 owners down the beach. Notably absent in paying for the County's mistake are the other taxpayers of the county who, by the way, sinned no more than did all the folks on the beach.

If you care enough to read this, please care enough to protest by phone, personal contact, and by showing up at BCC meetings to personally and publicly protest these taxes and this proposed agreement. While I have no animus toward County employees and have been favorably impressed by most whom I've met, I do not believe their employment by the County should shield them from the same storms which assault the rest of us in these difficult times. Many in the private sector have lost their jobs, their pensions, their health insurance. Others have absorbed decreases in pay. Equity suggests if not demands that public employees suffer along with the rest of us rather than be shielded by the power of the County to confiscate the money of private citizens via taxation without limit.

Thank you for a thoughtful analysis of the current situation. I have been told that the millage vote will be 3-2 against raising taxes and 5-0 for the HCP. I have no idea about how anyone would vote on the doc plan, do you? I have also heard that the county faces a 10-15% decrease in revenue and that hard choices will be required regarding cuts in services. The wild card is the oil situation and how it impacts current revenue.
 
I've never heard of this HCP proposed agreement and I'm not sure I understand it. Are you saying that because a handful of beachfront property owners put up seawalls with some sort of blessing from the county and then these federal agencies weren't happy about it, and the county didn't tell the property owners to remove the temporary walls, the county (all of us) is being fined $10M/year, for forever? Wow, those were expensive walls for all of us. Am I understanding this right? Can this fine really be true? Is there another option, like taking the walls out after the moratorium is over? What is it exactly the commissioners will be voting on? Levying the tax against beachfront owners, or agreeing to pay the fee for forever? Why aren't all the beachfront owners screaming about this potential tax?
 
I recommend that anyone who has a question about the HCP contact Billy McKee in the Walton County Environmental Services office to get the most up-to-date information.
 
What in the world leads one to think that county employees are not suffering along with everyone else???

We are taxpayers TOO...
 
I've never heard of this HCP proposed agreement and I'm not sure I understand it. Are you saying that because a handful of beachfront property owners put up seawalls with some sort of blessing from the county and then these federal agencies weren't happy about it, and the county didn't tell the property owners to remove the temporary walls, the county (all of us) is being fined $10M/year, for forever? Wow, those were expensive walls for all of us. Am I understanding this right? Can this fine really be true? Is there another option, like taking the walls out after the moratorium is over? What is it exactly the commissioners will be voting on? Levying the tax against beachfront owners, or agreeing to pay the fee for forever? Why aren't all the beachfront owners screaming about this potential tax?

Not having read the document as yet, I have attempted to sound the alarm so that we can all be aware of something that has slipped under my radar. My radar being deployed about 16 hours a day, I assume that mine is not the only radar going on this net and that others may have similarly been evaded. As a newbie to the political scene here, I'm still learning the names of the players, public and private. Keeping up with their machinations is an arduous undertaking. Hopefully this site can distribute the burden and favorably influence the process and the result.
 
I recommend that anyone who has a question about the HCP contact Billy McKee in the Walton County Environmental Services office to get the most up-to-date information.

Thanks for the info. That is emblematic of the burden-sharing of which I just spoke in another reply. It would be a service to all if you could provide a synopsis of your conversation with Mr. McKee. He's going to be a very busy man fielding calls on this if we all contact him individually. I shall.
 
Thanks for the info. That is emblematic of the burden-sharing of which I just spoke in another reply. It would be a service to all if you could provide a synopsis of your conversation with Mr. McKee. He's going to be a very busy man fielding calls on this if we all contact him individually. I shall.
He is quite open to questions, though he is only one individual and does not always have the answer. FYI, the HCP is not presently on the agenda for Tuesday's BCC meeting though it could be mentioned under citizen's comments or added by one of the Commissioners.
 
What in the world leads one to think that county employees are not suffering along with everyone else???

We are taxpayers TOO...

I'm sure many county employees are suffering. My point goes a bit deeper. I'm not sure how many know of the unfunded liability of the taxpayers of the county for county employee health and retirement benefits. Do you? It's presently a very large number, over and above the ongoing expenses being paid now from current revenues. Are you aware that the county has a $39,000,000 bank loan in addition to its bonded indebtedness? Small change compared to what's needed.

County employees receive benefits in health and retirement that are significantly greater than those usually found in the private sector for equivalent positions. The unfortunate reality is that your counterparts outside government do not receive, as a usual practice, anything approaching the employer contributions for family health premiums that you enjoy, for example. I think it likely that county employees have a defined benefit retirement plan which allows for retirement at a young age and which pays a guaranteed amount without regard to the actuarial soundness of the underlying plan. That is increasingly rare outside government. If the stock and bond markets devastate private retirement plans, the beneficiaries of those plans are hurt, badly of late. Not so for beneficiaries of government plans. Market crashes mean only that our taxes, our childrens taxes, our grandchildrens taxes must be increased to make up the difference.

Both your health and retirement benefits are at the expense of all of us, most disturbingly including children not yet born whose incomes are already pledged to paying these benefits to you for the rest of your life. Your employer, the county, has made deposits to your account from a significantly overdrawn checkbook. This is not unique to Walton County. The headlines are full of examples farther down the path than we here. Greece, Hungary, Spain, California, New York, the United States.

The time is now for all of us to recognize that governments pretty much everywhere have made promises that cannot be kept. And among the most extravagant and expensive of those are the promises made to you. Were this sustainable and even remotely fair, I'd be happy to pay my taxes and keep my mouth shut. It is neither sustainable nor fair.

A gentleman from north of the bay told me 2 days ago that he lives in a 4 bedroom, 2 bath house, over 3000 square feet, on 32 acres for a couple of decades. When he contemplates moving, he reminds himself that his property tax bill from Walton County is less than $300 a year. When a more typical bill for properties on or near the beach is 10, 20, 30, or more times that, and that for almost no land at all and usually a fraction of the living space, a reasonable person might conclude this to be inequitable.

Where the pigeons will come home to roost will be county-wide if the current housing crisis is significantly exacerbated by the oil spill. Most of the owners of the beachfront and near-beachfront property bought those properties as investments and depend on rentals and the business spun off by those tourists to make their mortgages and pay their fees. A lot of those folks have defaulted on condo fees and bank loans, and a lot of businesses have closed. We may have seen only a part of the iceberg, and if this worsens significantly, we'll see a lot more condos go under and businesses fail.

When that happens, the decline in county revenues today will seem like the good old days. Who will be left to pay the unfunded liability for your health and retirement benefits? Who will be left to pay for current government operations? The policymakers of the County Commission have spent improvidently for the better part of the boom times, expanding facilities, personnel and budgets extraordinarily, rather than prudently setting aside for the inevitable rainy days. While many county employees are no doubt honorable, hard-working, well-meaning people, and I presume that to be most all of them, the county has operated with blinders typical of governments, and the bill has come due.

Those of us who fund most of the county operations understand that there is going to be shared sacrifice, and we hope to convince each and every county employee that the status quo is over, one way or another. Greece has public employee riots in resistance to inevitable givebacks by public employees. That is neither desirable nor acceptable here, and county employees need to understand that the rest of us have suffered to a greater extent than they. Our employers can't just raise taxes to maintain our expected pay and benefits.

I take no delight in passing these thoughts along. I'm an older man who wishes this were a more perfect world and who wishes to pass to his daughter and his grandchildren the blessings of America as he has been lucky enough to experience. I wish that for you and your children and grandchildren as well. If we row the boat together, we're more likely to achieve that.
 
The county commission held a May 10 public workshop on the draft HCP which was one of many that have been held over the past few years. At that meeting a decision was made to put off the first public hearing on the HCP for at least 45 days. Counting 45 days from that date would give the date of June 24. The next regular county commission meeting after that would be July 13. That must be where that date came in.
At the May 10 workshop, the draft HCP proposed for the per-foot cost of the HCP to be borne by beachfront property owners who had installed seawalls, not all beachfront property owners. If there has been a change to that proposal, Billy McKee should have that information.
County budget workshops usually get started in July and budgets are usually finalized at budget hearings in September. There are public notices for budget workshops and hearings. So far there have been no notices of budget workshops or hearings, and no budget or millage rate has been proposed for the 2010-2011 fiscal year. It is a good idea for citizens to get involved as early as possible in the budget approval process and provide their input.
 
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