US pays $400 per gallon for gas in Afghanistan

[scooterbug44]

The $400 per gallon reflects what in Pentagon parlance is known as the ?fully burdened cost of fuel.?

?The fully burdened cost of fuel is a recognition that there are a lot of other factors that come into play,? said Mark Iden, the deputy director of operations at the Defense Energy Support Center (DESC), which provides fuel and energy to all U.S. military services worldwide.

The DESC provides one gallon of JP8 fuel, which is used for both aircraft and ground vehicles, at a standard price of $2.78, said Iden.

The Commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. James Conway, told a Navy Energy Forum this week that transporting fuel miles into Afghanistan and Iraq along risky and dangerous routes can raise the cost of a $1.04 gallon up to $400, according to Aviation Week which covered the forum.

?These are fairly major problems for us,? Conway said, according to the publication.

The fully burdened cost of fuel accounts for the cost of transporting it to where it is needed, said Kevin Geiss, program director for energy security in the Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations and Environment.

And moving fuel by convoy or even airlift is expensive, according to the Army news release from July 16, which quoted Geiss. In some places, Geiss said, analysts have estimated the fully burdened cost of fuel might even be as high as $1,000 per gallon.

 

[Beanstalk]

Jack: Did you read the article? According to the article, it is costing our government $400 per gallon. Please come up with a source that disputes that. Have a nice day.

For both you and scooterbug, I am not going to argue with either of you on this. I know as a FACT the article is very misleading and not to mention very amateur in its report. I will simply say this, if someone wants to believe it?s a turkey and they are set on it being a turkey, to them it is a turkey. I suggest reading these off the wall sources and taking them to claim as fact I might do a tad bit of research so as not to post with poor if at all correct information. I repeat just in case you did not see it, I know, as a FACT this report is full of misinformation and written by a poor journalist.

Jack

 

[Lake View Too]

For both you and scooterbug, I am not going to argue with either of you on this. I know as a FACT the article is very misleading and not to mention very amateur in its report. I will simply say this, if someone wants to believe it?s a turkey and they are set on it being a turkey, to them it is a turkey. I suggest reading these off the wall sources and taking them to claim as fact I might do a tad bit of research so as not to post with poor if at all correct information. I repeat just in case you did not see it, I know, as a FACT this report is full of misinformation and written by a poor journalist.

Jack

It's kinda funny that you state that it is a FACT that this article is full of misinformation, but you won't privilege us with your source of the correct information. Please tell us. Thanks

 

[Beanstalk]

It's kinda funny that you state that it is a FACT that this article is full of misinformation, but you won't privilege us with your source of the correct information. Please tell us. Thanks

You?re just not getting it. I will leave it for your digestion. I will state this for you again. I know what I have stated to be a Fact. Now with that being said, May I ask you other then what you have read from the postings here on sowal.com and the internet what proof do you have that my statement is not correct? Have a wonderful weekend.

 

[Lake View Too]

You?re just not getting it. I will leave it for your digestion. I will state this for you again. I know what I have stated to be a Fact. Now with that being said, May I ask you other then what you have read from the postings here on sowal.com and the internet what proof do you have that my statement is not correct? Have a wonderful weekend.

Oh, I get it now...it's because you said so.

 

[Lake View Too]

I'm not trying to be rude or snarky. I'm trying to find out information on this subject. I have to decide whether to believe an article written in The Hill, a reputable news site, as far as I know, which contained numerous quoted sources, or whether to believe an anonymous guy named Beanstaulk, who emphatically refutes this article without any sources. Decisions, decisions...

 

[Beanstalk]

I'm not trying to be rude or snarky. I'm trying to find out information on this subject. I have to decide whether to believe an article written in The Hill, a reputable news site, as far as I know, which contained numerous quoted sources, or whether to believe an anonymous guy named Beanstaulk, who emphatically refutes this article without any sources. Decisions, decisions...

Other then reading the hill here on sowall, what do you have to support they are reputable news site as you say? You question my reputation on this matter so please feel free what has the hill provided other then what I have here on sowal?

The difference between the hill and me is very simple. They claim to be providing accurate information. Which just by reading this article shows they are quoting 2nd and 3rd hand parties. I find it difficult to entrust an opinion on those sources.

Now, on the other hand, I would have hoped that you would have figured this out by now, but let me help you along. I have 1st hand knowledge of this so-called information. I know as a FACT these headlines are nothing more but a pig in the poke attempt to get uninformed people to give these baseless stories creditability because it hits their " I Told You So Button" and their desire to be Important in passing on inflammatory information. Now you can hide behind the computer and pretend to be somebody, (Not meaning you directly) and copy and paste information off the internet and think your posting with authority, or you can research and look into the story to make sure what your wanting to post as a FACT without 1st hand knowledge and live in a world of false and half truth information.

I myself have researched this claim and I have first hand experience with the two-posted authorities being used here. Now, The choice is yours. Trust in a known biased slanted reporting agency on the Internet, or gain the correct information for yourself and at that time make an informed opinion when you have the facts in front of you.

I have learned in the past 60 plus years that trusting sources that you have little or no experience with only leads you into making poor judgments or decisions on matters. You have posted "Who should you TRUST" My answer is simple. Trust only the information you have researched and scrutinized for yourself and not follow the lead of what someone else says (Post) as the final answer. Have a wonderful day!

 

[Lake View Too]

Other then reading the hill here on sowall, what do you have to support they are reputable news site as you say? You question my reputation on this matter so please feel free what has the hill provided other then what I have here on sowal?

The difference between the hill and me is very simple. They claim to be providing accurate information. Which just by reading this article shows they are quoting 2nd and 3rd hand parties. I find it difficult to entrust an opinion on those sources.

Now, on the other hand, I would have hoped that you would have figured this out by now, but let me help you along. I have 1st hand knowledge of this so-called information. I know as a FACT these headlines are nothing more but a pig in the poke attempt to get uninformed people to give these baseless stories creditability because it hits their " I Told You So Button" and their desire to be Important in passing on inflammatory information. Now you can hide behind the computer and pretend to be somebody, (Not meaning you directly) and copy and paste information off the internet and think your posting with authority, or you can research and look into the story to make sure what your wanting to post as a FACT without 1st hand knowledge and live in a world of false and half truth information.

I myself have researched this claim and I have first hand experience with the two-posted authorities being used here. Now, The choice is yours. Trust in a known biased slanted reporting agency on the Internet, or gain the correct information for yourself and at that time make an informed opinion when you have the facts in front of you.

I have learned in the past 60 plus years that trusting sources that you have little or no experience with only leads you into making poor judgments or decisions on matters. You have posted "Who should you TRUST" My answer is simple. Trust only the information you have researched and scrutinized for yourself and not follow the lead of what someone else says (Post) as the final answer. Have a wonderful day!

Again, Jack, I am trying very hard to understand this issue and you keep saying you know first hand knowlege of this matter and you won't seem to say what source you get this first hand knowlege from. Am I just suppose to believe this because you say so? Again, I'm not trying to be rude or arrogant, but from what you've commented, you don't come across as any more informed than the article. So I guess I won't believe either one of you. Thanks.

 

[scooterbug44]

Please explain HOW this information is wrong/misleading or provide an alternate source.

Nothing jumps out as being illogical or manufactured when I read the article and your comments so far make me think you didn't actually read the article, just saw the headline and reacted.

Telling us it's wrong w/o any explanation, supporting evidence or source has no validity.

 

[Beanstalk]

Please explain HOW this information is wrong/misleading or provide an alternate source.

Nothing jumps out as being illogical or manufactured when I read the article and your comments so far make me think you didn't actually read the article, just saw the headline and reacted.

Telling us it's wrong w/o any explanation, supporting evidence or source has no validity.

I feel I have come to the end of my ability to attempt to get you to understand my position. But respectfully I choose to admonish the two authorities as reference in this thread and only hope that one would look further then the sources supplied here as the means to form an intelligent decision on the truth and purpose of the mentioned articles.
Wish you well. Hope you have a super day! I am finished on this thread as I continue to only find myself repeating what I have already shared.
Jack