vacant lot sales on 30A

[hi n dry]

With all this BS about beach access, wet sand and all that, it appears to me that any land that is not gulf front will soon be almost worthless.

Thoughts?

Essentially I agree that a communities property value will be significantly affected by its access to the beach AND its right to use the beach.

For example, the communities of Sugarwood Beach and Grove By The Sea in Seagrove Beach have both good access and public beach rights. Their public accesses are to the beach in front of Sea Highlands ( that is where the owners built their seawalls on the public beach) which is all public.

Also, Palmeira Villas and Cassine Village in Seagrove have the pubic access by One Seagrove Place. All the over 300 feet of beach in front of One Seagrove Place is public beach.

Anyone bargain shopping for property needs to know not only where the public access is but also if the beach at the end of that access is public.

 

[ktmeadows]

Geez, I hope not . . .

Bobby J., One Seagrove is the closest public beach access point from our lot, no? The Sugar Cliff (?) one that got taken away was further down, correct?

The Sugar Cliff access (formerly a public beach access) is to the east of One Seagrove. It was directly across from our Cassine townhome...we have a clear view of it from our upstairs balcony. Unfortunately it's public no more

 

[TooFarTampa]

With all this BS about beach access, wet sand and all that, it appears to me that any land that is not gulf front will soon be almost worthless.

Thoughts?

Two years ago the above statement could have read, "With all this BS about hurricanes, seawalls and all that, it appears to me that any land that is gulf front will soon be almost worthless."

I would not bet on either scenario coming true, but the second one is far more likely. Mother Nature will trump the court system every time.

 

[Beach Runner]

The Sugar Cliff access (formerly a public beach access) is to the east of One Seagrove. It was directly across from our Cassine townhome...we have a clear view of it from our upstairs balcony. Unfortunately it's public no more

How can an access go from public to private?

 

[jodiFL]

How can an access go from public to private?

I am not sure but you can watch it as it happens with the one between WaterColor and Seaside as we speak. Seems Watercolor is building showers etc on what was the parking lot for the public walkover and will probably start claiming it in the very near future.

 

[SGB]

I am not sure but you can watch it as it happens with the one between WaterColor and Seaside as we speak. Seems Watercolor is building showers etc on what was the parking lot for the public walkover and will probably start claiming it in the very near future.

I believe that this access is being improved by the TDC, including restrooms, for public use.

 

[ktmeadows]

How can an access go from public to private?

If you go back to one of the Doodle Harris threads, you can find more info on the background. [ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showpost.php?p=112170&postcount=38"]SoWal Beaches Forum - View Single Post - Doodle Harris wants to change zoning; Increase densities in Old Seagrove[/ame] Interesting to read Doodle's (aka sas96) reply. From what I understand, somehow proper paperwork was not properly filed at the time the access was built. Even thought the developers and the folks who were involved in the deeding of the property testified their intent, the bottom line is the county dropped the ball many years ago. The current homeowners must have checked into it, filed a petition with the court and the battle went on for several years. You can find all the records on the Walton County court documents web site, just type in "Sugar Cliffs". The county maintained the access for many years, even rebuilding it after one of the hurricanes (can't remember the name). After the second hurricane hit and demolished the walkway, the case was already filed so the county did not repair the access, smartly choosing to wait until a court decision.

 

[Beach Runner]

If you go back to one of the Doodle Harris threads, you can find more info on the background. http://www.sowal.com/bb/showpost.php?p=112170&postcount=38 Interesting to read Doodle's (aka sas96) reply. From what I understand, somehow proper paperwork was not properly filed at the time the access was built. Even thought the developers and the folks who were involved in the deeding of the property testified their intent, the bottom line is the county dropped the ball many years ago. The current homeowners must have checked into it, filed a petition with the court and the battle went on for several years. You can find all the records on the Walton County court documents web site, just type in "Sugar Cliffs". The county maintained the access for many years, even rebuilding it after one of the hurricanes (can't remember the name). After the second hurricane hit and demolished the walkway, the case was already filed so the county did not repair the access, smartly choosing to wait until a court decision.

Thanks for the info. It really stinks for the majority of people who can't or aren't willing to pay for beachfront neighborhoods.

 

[SHELLY]

If you go back to one of the Doodle Harris threads, you can find more info on the background.

Damn! And I was hoping to make it through till the end of the year without hearing about 'Doodle' again :roll:


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[Busta Hustle]

NOTICE: to all property owners beach front and inland. PLEASE deed over your worthless property to me. PM me if you need assistance in this matter.