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They believed they had a path but it failed. They truly believed Pence could halt it so they could convince some states to install new electors. They needed to stall for time to achieve that goal.
I also don’t believe the violence was planned, but trump, Brooks, and Giuliani underestimated how really stupid and gullible their audience was when giving their fire and brimstone speeches lying by telling them the election was stolen.
I would believe this if I weren't actually in the mix. One of the major issue that led to Jan 6th was that people on the right did not think it was even remotely possible for Biden to have won, that is why they (we) felt like something illegal had happened. I am not saying it did I am telling you about the right thought process, this does not make us bad people. That combined (or multiplied) with the right side media makes our side feel as though it was robbed. The major percentage of people went on Jan 6th because they were mad, I do not believe they went to the capital with the intention of overturning the election results. They were mad and then the mob mentality took over because of a few bad eggs. As I said before, if the Jan 6th people went in there to cause destruction and hurt people there wouldn't be a capital there today and a lot of people would have been killed. As someone on the right, I pride myself on law and order and Jan 6th diminished our cause. I do not like it but I understand it
 
No I can’t follow your reasons because his is a proven lifelong lying conman. For him revenge and cruelty has always been job one.
Let me extend an olive branch, who do you think would be the best person to run our country and why (doesn't have to be a real person). I'll go first, this is jus my opinon, the person should be ex military (having put their life on the line for our country) , Should have grown up with money but not over indulged (so they cannot be easily bought), should be grounded by faith in a higher power, should be very versed in the constitution, should have first hand knowledge of race struggles (maybe of mixed race or not white), should be well spoken, should have strong shoulders, mentally sharp, emotionally mature, not have been in politics long but long enough to know how it works, most importantly love America, ect. The issue is this person would never go into politics because politics is a dirty game
 
I would believe this if I weren't actually in the mix. One of the major issue that led to Jan 6th was that people on the right did not think it was even remotely possible for Biden to have won, that is why they (we) felt like something illegal had happened. I am not saying it did I am telling you about the right thought process, this does not make us bad people. That combined (or multiplied) with the right side media makes our side feel as though it was robbed. The major percentage of people went on Jan 6th because they were mad, I do not believe they went to the capital with the intention of overturning the election results. They were mad and then the mob mentality took over because of a few bad eggs. As I said before, if the Jan 6th people went in there to cause destruction and hurt people there wouldn't be a capital there today and a lot of people would have been killed. As someone on the right, I pride myself on law and order and Jan 6th diminished our cause. I do not like it but I understand it
What I seem to gather from this statement is that the Right is just really gullible or really bad at arithmetic. Donald Trump was the only president in history that never had an approval rating above 50%. He averaged around 38%, so why would it be a shock that he wasn't re-elected? He also purposely downplayed the pandemic (by his own words) and led to 100,000 of Americans dying needlessly. Why would it be a shock that he wasn't re-elected? He lost the popular vote in 2016 by 3 million votes. Why would it be a shock that he wasn't re-elected? He was impeached for attempting to extort a foreign government, and refused to provide any documents nor any witnesses to the Senate trial. Why would it be a shock he wasn't re-elected? He added 5 Trillion Dollars to the national debt. Why would it be a shock that he wasn't re-elected. He was caught telling over 20,000 lies... It's pretty obvious to a majority of this country that he is both a terrible person and a terrible president. He was defeated in a fair election, and if you can't accept that, maybe you are a member of a cult.
 
What I seem to gather from this statement is that the Right is just really gullible or really bad at arithmetic. Donald Trump was the only president in history that never had an approval rating above 50%. He averaged around 38%, so why would it be a shock that he wasn't re-elected? He also purposely downplayed the pandemic (by his own words) and led to 100,000 of Americans dying needlessly. Why would it be a shock that he wasn't re-elected? He lost the popular vote in 2016 by 3 million votes. Why would it be a shock that he wasn't re-elected? He was impeached for attempting to extort a foreign government, and refused to provide any documents nor any witnesses to the Senate trial. Why would it be a shock he wasn't re-elected? He added 5 Trillion Dollars to the national debt. Why would it be a shock that he wasn't re-elected. He was caught telling over 20,000 lies... It's pretty obvious to a majority of this country that he is both a terrible person and a terrible president. He was defeated in a fair election, and if you can't accept that, maybe you are a member of a cult.
LVT, this is why there is no conversation across the isle. You start your post like an insulting JO. Then you bring up approval rating like anyone cares about that. Then you go into made up statements. Lets say your statement was actually a fact that 100,000 Americans died 'needlessly' under Trump. How many would have died under Biden? Before you answer cross check how him and Obama did on swine flu. The popular vote is a cap feather at best, it has very little to do with the real winner (thank god our founding fathers were so smart). Let me know if you'd like to go into the Ukrain thing because I would love to. As far as the as the last part all I hear is Charlie Browns teacher
 
LVT, this is why there is no conversation across the isle. You start your post like an insulting JO. Then you bring up approval rating like anyone cares about that. Then you go into made up statements. Lets say your statement was actually a fact that 100,000 Americans died 'needlessly' under Trump. How many would have died under Biden? Before you answer cross check how him and Obama did on swine flu. The popular vote is a cap feather at best, it has very little to do with the real winner (thank god our founding fathers were so smart). Let me know if you'd like to go into the Ukrain thing because I would love to. As far as the as the last part all I hear is Charlie Browns teacher
What about the 60 lawsuits filed by Trump claiming "massive voter fraud"? Where was the evidence? None. Obviously, you don't believe in the rule of law. You believe that thugs that trampled the capitol were paraders. Earlier you asked what proof the rally/riot on Jan. 6 was an attempt to overthrow the election. Just the very fact that it was planned on Jan. 6, the day the election results were scheduled to be ratified, makes it pretty dam obvious that it was a planned insurrection to overthrow the election. Please tell me how many people died of swine flu. I can certainly google it, but I want to hear your reality on that subject. You are in a cult. God bless your little pea-pickin' heart.
 
What about the 60 lawsuits filed by Trump claiming "massive voter fraud"? Where was the evidence? None. Obviously, you don't believe in the rule of law. You believe that thugs that trampled the capitol were paraders. Earlier you asked what proof the rally/riot on Jan. 6 was an attempt to overthrow the election. Just the very fact that it was planned on Jan. 6, the day the election results were scheduled to be ratified, makes it pretty dam obvious that it was a planned insurrection to overthrow the election. Please tell me how many people died of swine flu. I can certainly google it, but I want to hear your reality on that subject. You are in a cult. God bless your little pea-pickin' heart.
Your right, keep telling me what I believe. Feelings and emotion
 
JANUARY 6 WAS A JOKE OF A LOT IF CLOWNS AND A HERO PREAIDENT THEY NEED BETTER ORGANIZED ONE DAY WE WILL HAVE MILITARY TYPE ORGANIZED AND LEFT WILL HAVE TO LEAVE OT JAILED!! MN!
 
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